In the second episode of the first season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Buffy’s new group of friends bands together to stop the mouth of hell from opening up. Intrigued? Then it’s time for Mark to watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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You know, I think I remember why I never gave this show a chance: I don’t like vampires. In general, I’ve never been too interested by the mythology that surrounds them, and it certainly doesn’t help that a certain “saga” of books pretty much ruined everything ever. But let’s say I never read those books; I still haven’t been terribly fascinated by them. I’m hoping that this is going to change that by at least making things a little more silly than I expect. I suppose that’s what’s so weird about vampires: they’re always played with this hyper-serious eroticism, and it rarely strays from that. At this point, a lot of the witty humor comes from those around the vampires, but even that is a welcome change for me. Vampires are inherently absurd to me, and I like that there’s a slight acknowledgment in the writing that this is goddamn ridiculous.
I like the premise of the show so far, and I’m getting a lot of hints towards things that will continue being more awesome, but I’m still in that period where I’m like I DON’T KNOW Y’ALL GIVE ME MORE TIME. I need to get to know Buffy better, and I’m slow to declare my love. Well, only sometimes, but I don’t need to rush into another relationship after Battlestar Galactica, okay? STOP PRESSURING ME!
Given that, I’m keeping an open mind about this show; I can’t say I liked “The Harvest” more than the pilot, but it’s interesting to me. Whedon sets up what will probably be this season’s mythological arc (The Master, who I still maintain should be John Simm), and wraps up most of the storylines introduced in the first episode. Things are…awkward? I think this is the first show I’ve watched where I don’t think the acting is really all that solid, except for Charisma Carpenter. And that’s weird to me, because I got the tiniest hint of her character doing something different and evolving, and then it’s taken away from me. I have no clue why I am drawn to her at all because her personality is so grating at first! She’s rude, dismissive, and mouths off a billion shitty and problematic things to those around her, but to me, it feels like a show. It’s a performance, but I can’t figure out why. Plus, her interaction with Buffy changes almost immediately after the girl saves her life. If you look back at the scene of the morning after the attack, she’s still gossiping about Buffy being weird, but it doesn’t sound cruel. It sounds…almost like she respects her?
But now I’ve jumped all the way to the end. WOOPS. It happens! I don’t find this show particularly creepy yet, even if it’s steeped in fantasy and horror tropes. The thing is, I sort of don’t care about that. The show doesn’t feel like it’s trying to be this terrifying, supernatural thing, and I’m perfectly fine with that. That’s not to say that it can’t be; I think the set of the tunnels underneath Sunnydale was used extremely well and utilized darkness and claustrophobia properly. Since I’m coming off of Battlestar Galactica, which was unbelievably intense and serious, it’s nice that this is campy and silly and over-the-top. That tonal change is appealing to me.
Whedon doesn’t accept that a campy storyline can’t have some realism in it, though, and there are two important plot points that prove this. First of all, Giles immediately has to deal with the fact that Xander and Willow now know Buffy is a slayer, there are vampires, and more people will be killed because of this. I can’t express just how much I love that this is so early into the show. These characters are now available to have intricate involvement in the plot that isn’t them wondering what the hell Buffy is up to; thankfully, Giles doesn’t seem like he wants to drag the process out longer than it has to be:
“A Slayer hunts vampires; Buffy is a Slayer; don’t tell anyone. Well, I think that’s all the vampire information you need.”
I MEAN RIGHT. Oh god I love you Giles I LOVE YOU.
I also picked up on Xander’s little temper tantrum regarding feeling useless because Buffy asked him to let her do things on her own. It’s kind of a brilliant moment because…look, this shit came out in 1997. And it had a young women basically telling a man who’s bigger than her to sit the hell down and let her take of shit her own way. That’s…kind of cool? And I don’t want to either overstate or underestimate the influence of this sort of thing, especially when you retroactively look at this sort of stuff. But even in 2011, that’s kind of a big deal? Which is an unfortunate thing to state, since not much has changed in fourteen years.
The other thing that not only made me laugh, but I recognized as a great addition to the story was having Buffy’s mother refuse to let her out of the house. I am hoping that this show is not going to ignore the fact that Buffy is just sixteen years old, and this seems like a good sign of it. Earlier, Principal Flutie already tried to prevent Buffy from leaving campus, and now Buffy’s mother is putting up restrictions on her behavior. The problem that Buffy faces, then, is how she is going to attempt to stay in Sunnydale without burning down the gym again. Will there come a day when she has to tell her mother what’s going on, or will it remain a secret over all seven seasons? Thankfully, Whedon’s already provided Buffy with three alibis in the form of Giles, Xander, and Willow; however, how long can that last? How much will Buffy try to integrate into high school life? These are things I sort of want to know! Like…will she join a sports team to try to deflect any suspicious attention to her? Or will that actually be a disaster?
At this point, this is the stuff I’m looking for. I know that I’m going to just let the story develop from here, but I’m paying attention to all the details that stand out as being unusual for an American drama for teens or as a fantasy show. Again, that doesn’t mean Whedon doesn’t use familiar tropes or patterns. I think the portrayal of the vampires is pretty hokey and tired, to be quite honest. There’s nothing in the way Luke, Darla, and the Master act that seems all that much different from nearly every vampire representation that I’ve seen.
However, I was totally shocked that Jesse was made a vampire in the second episode of the whole show. Of course, I’d assumed that when the Master wanted to use him as bait, it would be in Jesse’s human form. So as he led them through the tunnels, I figured that if he was leading them to a trap, it was because he’d made a bargain with the Master to spare his life. But really, how ridiculous is that assumption? Why would the Master turn away a fresh body??? So yes, I did gasp loudly when Xander turned to see that Jesse’s face had changed.
But purely from an emotional standpoint, it’s Whedon’s first statement that this show isn’t going to be safe about certain things. Why should I have expected everyone to get off scot-free after their very first experience with vampires? Instead, I find it more realistic that one of the human characters would lose their life, unprepared to deal with a vampire.
At the same time, I do have one huge complaint about how “The Harvest” ends. As soon as Luke started sucking the bouncer’s blood, I was ECSTATIC. Because there were like 50 fucking witnesses!!! Oh god, and Xander killed Jesse when someone pushed him onto the stake he held, and THIS NEVER HAPPENS IN THE BEGINNING OF A SCI-FI/FANTASY BOOK. It’s always a secret that has to be kept so no one ever knows this underground society exists. But Luke just ate a dude on stage in front of a ton of other people. THIS IS SO EXCITING.
And then we see Cordelia the next morning, explaining to another girl how a “gang” of some sort bust into the Bronze. And the entire plot is written off because people are more likely to rely on denial than being honest with themselves. All fifty people???? I’m sorry, I can’t believe that. Look how many people there were! Not one of them thought it was weird that a guy sucked blood out of another guys’ next? Did the police just not get involved at all? Perhaps Whedon didn’t want to out do himself so early on, but I was kind of disappointed with this dismissive explanation for it all. It felt like a bit of a cop-out.
Still, I’m excited to see where this goes. And if Giles is telling the truth, that means there will be other creatures around that aren’t vampires??? UM YES PLEASE THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. thank you very much.
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The Harvest! Without pumpkins, sadly.
Here's a hint: Eric Balfour? Not in the credits. Sorry, Jesse, but it's time to face the truth: You're a redshirt. (Joss originally wanted to have him in the credits so his death would be a total surprise, which tells you something about how Joss likes to make sure his audience is COMPLETELY UNPREPARED.)
Mark Metcalf has more of a chance to ham it the fuck up in this episode, and he's wonderful. It's easy to miss, but there's at least one line of dialogue to indicate he's stuck in an underground church. I think that's part of why he can't just walk around–the church has power that keeps him trapped there. Vampires don't like religion, as evidenced by Luke's recoil from Buffy's cross necklace. (BTW, the coolest explanation for this phenomenon ever is given in Scott Westerfeld's book Peeps, which is about vampires. Not marshmallows.)
Willow shows us her leet hacking skillz in this episode! She wrests information from the dread machine! And this was PRE-GOOGLE, you guys.
I'm pretty sure I had the exact same pair of huge round sunglasses that Buffy wears when she gets caught by Principal Flutie. THE NINETIES.
"Sensible girl with her feet on the ground." Ironic Segue Fairy #2!
Angel! How nice to learn your name! You still have a ridiculous outfit on! And we learn of Joss's penchant for gender-switching names. See also: Jayne, Mal, etc. "Jesse" is kind of an androgynous name, too.
Buffy is so adorable in this scene! Sunglasses on head! Bangs! Cutie! Sorry, I think I'll be doing this a lot.
Aww poor Angel has no friends. Maybe it's the clothes.
Buffy's "comforting" story about slaying a vampire with an X-acto knife just kills me. No pun intended?
I have no idea what program they're talking about in this computer programming class. I love the stoner dude who just pops his head in out of nowhere, though.
I think "I am not okay on an epic scale" is Jesse's best line. Ah Jesse, we barely knew ye.
For the Hellmouth having a Spanish name (Boca del Infierno), there sure are NO LATIN@ MAIN CHARACTERS in this show set in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. (A caveat: Charisma Carpenter is apparently part Latina. However, Cordelia has been coded as white so far.) (Trivia: Charisma Carpenter originally auditioned for the part of Buffy. She got the role of Cordelia when an actress of color (Ovnapn Ynjfba, jub cynlf Xraqen yngre) turned it down.) (More trivia that has nothing to do with anything: Charisma was named after a perfume.)
Credits shot!
Buffy's mom saying "I know, if you don't go out, it'll be the end of the world" is a great line. Exactly the kind of "high school drama = supernatural horror story" metaphor this show is so great at. Because of course, if Buffy can't go out, it WILL be the end of the world. Parents just don't understand, amirite?
(Right, so the Bronze makes no sense. Let's get that out of the way right now. The bouncer asks for ID, but it's a club full of HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. What kind of ID could he possibly need? I mean, maybe they stamp hands to show who's of age and who's not. But I think in actual towns, the "only club in town" would never admit high-schoolers. I live in a CITY, and there are like two clubs that admit underage kids–one night a week.) (Season 4 spoilers: Nyfb gurl XRRC TBVAT GURER jura gurl'er va pbyyrtr.)
Black guy: first one to die! Yep.
Improvised stake with pool cue! Great physical gag with the cue slowly rising as the vamp falls.
LOL the place where Jesse gets staked is NOWHERE NEAR HIS HEART. Still a funny take on "You're my friend, I can't kill you" though.
"Nothing's ever gonna be the same." ISF #3.
"EXCESSIVE not studying." Yeah, that was pretty much my strategy, too, Buffy.
Episode of this show: 2
Apocalypses averted: 1
Pretty good batting average right there.
The Harvest! Without pumpkins, sadly.
Here's a hint: Eric Balfour? Not in the credits. Sorry, Jesse, but it's time to face the truth: You're a redshirt. (Joss originally wanted to have him in the credits so his death would be a total surprise, which tells you something about how Joss likes to make sure his audience is COMPLETELY UNPREPARED.)
Mark Metcalf has more of a chance to ham it the fuck up in this episode, and he's wonderful. It's easy to miss, but there's at least one line of dialogue to indicate he's stuck in an underground church. I think that's part of why he can't just walk around–the church has power that keeps him trapped there. Vampires don't like religion, as evidenced by Luke's recoil from Buffy's cross necklace. (BTW, the coolest explanation for this phenomenon ever is given in Scott Westerfeld's book Peeps, which is about vampires. Not marshmallows.)
Willow shows us her leet hacking skillz in this episode! She wrests information from the dread machine! And this was PRE-GOOGLE, you guys.
I'm pretty sure I had the exact same pair of huge round sunglasses that Buffy wears when she gets caught by Principal Flutie. THE NINETIES.
"Sensible girl with her feet on the ground." Ironic Segue Fairy #2!
Angel! How nice to learn your name! You still have a ridiculous outfit on! And we learn of Joss's penchant for gender-switching names. See also: Jayne, Mal, etc. "Jesse" is kind of an androgynous name, too.
Buffy is so adorable in this scene! Sunglasses on head! Bangs! Cutie! Sorry, I think I'll be doing this a lot.
Aww poor Angel has no friends. Maybe it's the clothes.
Buffy's "comforting" story about slaying a vampire with an X-acto knife just kills me. No pun intended?
I have no idea what program they're talking about in this computer programming class. I love the stoner dude who just pops his head in out of nowhere, though.
I think "I am not okay on an epic scale" is Jesse's best line. Ah Jesse, we barely knew ye.
For the Hellmouth having a Spanish name (Boca del Infierno), there sure are NO LATIN@ MAIN CHARACTERS in this show set in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. (A caveat: Charisma Carpenter is apparently part Latina. However, Cordelia has been coded as white so far.) (Trivia: Charisma Carpenter originally auditioned for the part of Buffy. She got the role of Cordelia when an actress of color (Ovnapn Ynjfba, jub cynlf Xraqen yngre) turned it down.) (More trivia that has nothing to do with anything: Charisma was named after a perfume.)
Credits shot!
Buffy's mom saying "I know, if you don't go out, it'll be the end of the world" is a great line. Exactly the kind of "high school drama = supernatural horror story" metaphor this show is so great at. Because of course, if Buffy can't go out, it WILL be the end of the world. Parents just don't understand, amirite?
(Right, so the Bronze makes no sense. Let's get that out of the way right now. The bouncer asks for ID, but it's a club full of HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. What kind of ID could he possibly need? I mean, maybe they stamp hands to show who's of age and who's not. But I think in actual towns, the "only club in town" would never admit high-schoolers. I live in a CITY, and there are like two clubs that admit underage kids–one night a week.) (Season 4 spoilers: Nyfb gurl XRRC TBVAT GURER jura gurl'er va pbyyrtr.)
Black guy: first one to die! Yep.
Improvised stake with pool cue! Great physical gag with the cue slowly rising as the vamp falls.
LOL the place where Jesse gets staked is NOWHERE NEAR HIS HEART. Still a funny take on "You're my friend, I can't kill you" though.
"Nothing's ever gonna be the same." ISF #3.
"EXCESSIVE not studying." Yeah, that was pretty much my strategy, too, Buffy.
Episode of this show: 2
Apocalypses averted: 1
Pretty good batting average right there.
The Harvest! Without pumpkins, sadly.
Here's a hint: Eric Balfour? Not in the credits. Sorry, Jesse, but it's time to face the truth: You're a redshirt. (Joss originally wanted to have him in the credits so his death would be a total surprise, which tells you something about how Joss likes to make sure his audience is COMPLETELY UNPREPARED.)
Mark Metcalf has more of a chance to ham it the fuck up in this episode, and he's wonderful. It's easy to miss, but there's at least one line of dialogue to indicate he's stuck in an underground church. I think that's part of why he can't just walk around–the church has power that keeps him trapped there. Vampires don't like religion, as evidenced by Luke's recoil from Buffy's cross necklace. (BTW, the coolest explanation for this phenomenon ever is given in Scott Westerfeld's book Peeps, which is about vampires. Not marshmallows.)
Willow shows us her leet hacking skillz in this episode! She wrests information from the dread machine! And this was PRE-GOOGLE, you guys.
I'm pretty sure I had the exact same pair of huge round sunglasses that Buffy wears when she gets caught by Principal Flutie. THE NINETIES.
"Sensible girl with her feet on the ground." Ironic Segue Fairy #2!
Angel! How nice to learn your name! You still have a ridiculous outfit on! And we learn of Joss's penchant for gender-switching names. See also: Jayne, Mal, etc. "Jesse" is kind of an androgynous name, too.
Buffy is so adorable in this scene! Sunglasses on head! Bangs! Cutie! Sorry, I think I'll be doing this a lot.
Aww poor Angel has no friends. Maybe it's the clothes.
Buffy's "comforting" story about slaying a vampire with an X-acto knife just kills me. No pun intended?
I have no idea what program they're talking about in this computer programming class. I love the stoner dude who just pops his head in out of nowhere, though.
I think "I am not okay on an epic scale" is Jesse's best line. Ah Jesse, we barely knew ye.
For the Hellmouth having a Spanish name (Boca del Infierno), there sure are NO LATIN@ MAIN CHARACTERS in this show set in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. (A caveat: Charisma Carpenter is apparently part Latina. However, Cordelia has been coded as white so far.) (Trivia: Charisma Carpenter originally auditioned for the part of Buffy. She got the role of Cordelia when an actress of color (Ovnapn Ynjfba, jub cynlf Xraqen yngre) turned it down.) (More trivia that has nothing to do with anything: Charisma was named after a perfume.)
Credits shot!
Buffy's mom saying "I know, if you don't go out, it'll be the end of the world" is a great line. Exactly the kind of "high school drama = supernatural horror story" metaphor this show is so great at. Because of course, if Buffy can't go out, it WILL be the end of the world. Parents just don't understand, amirite?
(Right, so the Bronze makes no sense. Let's get that out of the way right now. The bouncer asks for ID, but it's a club full of HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. What kind of ID could he possibly need? I mean, maybe they stamp hands to show who's of age and who's not. But I think in actual towns, the "only club in town" would never admit high-schoolers. I live in a CITY, and there are like two clubs that admit underage kids–one night a week.) (Season 4 spoilers: Nyfb gurl XRRC TBVAT GURER jura gurl'er va pbyyrtr.)
Black guy: first one to die! Yep.
Improvised stake with pool cue! Great physical gag with the cue slowly rising as the vamp falls.
LOL the place where Jesse gets staked is NOWHERE NEAR HIS HEART. Still a funny take on "You're my friend, I can't kill you" though.
"Nothing's ever gonna be the same." ISF #3.
"EXCESSIVE not studying." Yeah, that was pretty much my strategy, too, Buffy.
Episode of this show: 2
Apocalypses averted: 1
Pretty good batting average right there.
The Harvest! Without pumpkins, sadly.
Here's a hint: Eric Balfour? Not in the credits. Sorry, Jesse, but it's time to face the truth: You're a redshirt. (Joss originally wanted to have him in the credits so his death would be a total surprise, which tells you something about how Joss likes to make sure his audience is COMPLETELY UNPREPARED.)
Mark Metcalf has more of a chance to ham it the fuck up in this episode, and he's wonderful. It's easy to miss, but there's at least one line of dialogue to indicate he's stuck in an underground church. I think that's part of why he can't just walk around–the church has power that keeps him trapped there. Vampires don't like religion, as evidenced by Luke's recoil from Buffy's cross necklace. (BTW, the coolest explanation for this phenomenon ever is given in Scott Westerfeld's book Peeps, which is about vampires. Not marshmallows.)
Willow shows us her leet hacking skillz in this episode! She wrests information from the dread machine! And this was PRE-GOOGLE, you guys.
I'm pretty sure I had the exact same pair of huge round sunglasses that Buffy wears when she gets caught by Principal Flutie. THE NINETIES.
"Sensible girl with her feet on the ground." Ironic Segue Fairy #2!
Angel! How nice to learn your name! You still have a ridiculous outfit on! And we learn of Joss's penchant for gender-switching names. See also: Jayne, Mal, etc. "Jesse" is kind of an androgynous name, too.
Buffy is so adorable in this scene! Sunglasses on head! Bangs! Cutie! Sorry, I think I'll be doing this a lot.
Aww poor Angel has no friends. Maybe it's the clothes.
Buffy's "comforting" story about slaying a vampire with an X-acto knife just kills me. No pun intended?
I have no idea what program they're talking about in this computer programming class. I love the stoner dude who just pops his head in out of nowhere, though.
I think "I am not okay on an epic scale" is Jesse's best line. Ah Jesse, we barely knew ye.
For the Hellmouth having a Spanish name (Boca del Infierno), there sure are NO LATIN@ MAIN CHARACTERS in this show set in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. (A caveat: Charisma Carpenter is apparently part Latina. However, Cordelia has been coded as white so far.) (Trivia: Charisma Carpenter originally auditioned for the part of Buffy. She got the role of Cordelia when an actress of color (Ovnapn Ynjfba, jub cynlf Xraqen yngre) turned it down.) (More trivia that has nothing to do with anything: Charisma was named after a perfume.)
Credits shot!
Buffy's mom saying "I know, if you don't go out, it'll be the end of the world" is a great line. Exactly the kind of "high school drama = supernatural horror story" metaphor this show is so great at. Because of course, if Buffy can't go out, it WILL be the end of the world. Parents just don't understand, amirite?
(Right, so the Bronze makes no sense. Let's get that out of the way right now. The bouncer asks for ID, but it's a club full of HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. What kind of ID could he possibly need? I mean, maybe they stamp hands to show who's of age and who's not. But I think in actual towns, the "only club in town" would never admit high-schoolers. I live in a CITY, and there are like two clubs that admit underage kids–one night a week.) (Season 4 spoilers: Nyfb gurl XRRC TBVAT GURER jura gurl'er va pbyyrtr.)
Black guy: first one to die! Yep.
Improvised stake with pool cue! Great physical gag with the cue slowly rising as the vamp falls.
LOL the place where Jesse gets staked is NOWHERE NEAR HIS HEART. Still a funny take on "You're my friend, I can't kill you" though.
"Nothing's ever gonna be the same." ISF #3.
"EXCESSIVE not studying." Yeah, that was pretty much my strategy, too, Buffy.
Episode of this show: 2
Apocalypses averted: 1
Pretty good batting average right there.
The Harvest! Without pumpkins, sadly.
Here's a hint: Eric Balfour? Not in the credits. Sorry, Jesse, but it's time to face the truth: You're a redshirt. (Joss originally wanted to have him in the credits so his death would be a total surprise, which tells you something about how Joss likes to make sure his audience is COMPLETELY UNPREPARED.)
Mark Metcalf has more of a chance to ham it the fuck up in this episode, and he's wonderful. It's easy to miss, but there's at least one line of dialogue to indicate he's stuck in an underground church. I think that's part of why he can't just walk around–the church has power that keeps him trapped there. Vampires don't like religion, as evidenced by Luke's recoil from Buffy's cross necklace. (BTW, the coolest explanation for this phenomenon ever is given in Scott Westerfeld's book Peeps, which is about vampires. Not marshmallows.)
Willow shows us her leet hacking skillz in this episode! She wrests information from the dread machine! And this was PRE-GOOGLE, you guys.
I'm pretty sure I had the exact same pair of huge round sunglasses that Buffy wears when she gets caught by Principal Flutie. THE NINETIES.
"Sensible girl with her feet on the ground." Ironic Segue Fairy #2!
Angel! How nice to learn your name! You still have a ridiculous outfit on! And we learn of Joss's penchant for gender-switching names. See also: Jayne, Mal, etc. "Jesse" is kind of an androgynous name, too.
Buffy is so adorable in this scene! Sunglasses on head! Bangs! Cutie! Sorry, I think I'll be doing this a lot.
Aww poor Angel has no friends. Maybe it's the clothes.
Buffy's "comforting" story about slaying a vampire with an X-acto knife just kills me. No pun intended?
I have no idea what program they're talking about in this computer programming class. I love the stoner dude who just pops his head in out of nowhere, though.
I think "I am not okay on an epic scale" is Jesse's best line. Ah Jesse, we barely knew ye.
For the Hellmouth having a Spanish name (Boca del Infierno), there sure are NO LATIN@ MAIN CHARACTERS in this show set in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. (A caveat: Charisma Carpenter is apparently part Latina. However, Cordelia has been coded as white so far.) (Trivia: Charisma Carpenter originally auditioned for the part of Buffy. She got the role of Cordelia when an actress of color (Ovnapn Ynjfba, jub cynlf Xraqen yngre) turned it down.) (More trivia that has nothing to do with anything: Charisma was named after a perfume.)
Credits shot!
Buffy's mom saying "I know, if you don't go out, it'll be the end of the world" is a great line. Exactly the kind of "high school drama = supernatural horror story" metaphor this show is so great at. Because of course, if Buffy can't go out, it WILL be the end of the world. Parents just don't understand, amirite?
(Right, so the Bronze makes no sense. Let's get that out of the way right now. The bouncer asks for ID, but it's a club full of HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. What kind of ID could he possibly need? I mean, maybe they stamp hands to show who's of age and who's not. But I think in actual towns, the "only club in town" would never admit high-schoolers. I live in a CITY, and there are like two clubs that admit underage kids–one night a week.) (Season 4 spoilers: Nyfb gurl XRRC TBVAT GURER jura gurl'er va pbyyrtr.)
Black guy: first one to die! Yep.
Improvised stake with pool cue! Great physical gag with the cue slowly rising as the vamp falls.
LOL the place where Jesse gets staked is NOWHERE NEAR HIS HEART. Still a funny take on "You're my friend, I can't kill you" though.
"Nothing's ever gonna be the same." ISF #3.
"EXCESSIVE not studying." Yeah, that was pretty much my strategy, too, Buffy.
Episode of this show: 2
Apocalypses averted: 1
Pretty good batting average right there.
All I can think is Eddie Izzard going "EVEN THOUGH I AM SCHOTTISH MYSHELF."
All I can think is Eddie Izzard going "EVEN THOUGH I AM SCHOTTISH MYSHELF."
All I can think is Eddie Izzard going "EVEN THOUGH I AM SCHOTTISH MYSHELF."
…Yeah, I kinda crossed the line even for complaining there, sorry. n.n;
Mark's going to have to put up with a lot of ableist dialogue if he wants to get through this series, though.
Ugh, me too. For so many reasons. Like, on one hand, "Mad Men"! But on the other, "I Am Number Four."
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Ahahaha is she involved in that? I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
I did have some stinkeye for her after she said she was working on a show where the characters talked (I paraphrase) "realistically", like in – wait for this! – TW*L*GHT.
Nah, I'm still giving that the stinkeye. even now.
Something I mentioned in my longer comment, but it's relevant here–the part of Cordelia was originally offered to an actress of color, but she turned it down due to other commitments so it went to Charisma Carpenter. Would have been interesting to have the most popular girl in school be nonwhite.
Ableist dialogue is one thing–ableist language in the comments is another. Mark wants this to be a safe space.
WELCOME TO MARK WATCHES
Yes! <3 Mine too. And frankly I blame my love of puns on that series. THE CELERY STALKS AT MIDNIGHT AHAHAHAHA
WHO KNOWS WHAT EVIL LURKS IN THE HEARTS OF LETTUCE
Mmmm, tomatoes. 😀
I still have all mine. I treasure them. <3
I think the thing with the comic spoilers is to clearly mark them with a note saying "comics spoilers" or whatever, so people who haven't read the comics can just not decode your comment.
also, another vampire I liked was from an otherwise mediocre RPG called Shadow Hearts: Covenant. The vampire was a gay superhero pro wrestler who picked up random odd objects to bludgeon monsters with in battle. HOW IS THAT NOT AWESOME.
And that's okay. I mean, I've basically stopped calling it out in the shows I watch because it's boring to write about and I'd rather deal with problematic ideas at hand than language when it comes to character dialogue, you know?
I call Wild Blue Yonder!
OH GOD I JUST GOT IN MY OWN SITE. wtf.
New server has been ordered. The old one sustained 500,000 calls just for Mark Watches alone today, so that's why it was seemingly worse than yesterday. And that doesn't even account for the 120,000 calls from Mark Reads, which shares a server.
My hosting service is busy finding me my own server and I swear I will get this fixed ASAP.
Lrf, gurl'er svefg ersreerq gb nf gur Fpbbol tnat (ol Knaqre) va frnfba 2, Jung'f Zl Yvar cneg 1, V guvax.
Jung nobhg vg? Abg n gjb-cnegre. V qba'g frr ubj vg jbhyq or onq gb jngpu "Qneyn" jryy nsgre "Sbby sbe Ybir".
Either watching them *all* in parallel (long as that would be) or watching all of Buffy and later all of Angel would work. This "watching certain ones" idea is a bad idea for entertainment purposes.
Orpnhfr gur pbagenfg orgjrra gur jnl Fcvxr qrfpevorf guvatf naq gur jnl gurl'er qrcvpgrq va "Qneyn" vf uvynevbhf, rfcrpvnyyl jura lbh jngpu gurz onpx-gb-onpx. Gurl'er pbzcnavba rcvfbqrf.
Vs lbh jnag gurz gb or.
Nf n crefba jub jngpurq Ohssl naq Natry pbzcyrgryl frcnengryl jvgu ab cevbe rkcrevrapr bs rvgure, V unir gb fnl V sryg fghcvq sbe abg jngpuvat Sbby sbe Ybir naq Qneyn onpx gb onpx yvxr zl sevraqf gbyq zr gb. V raqrq hc oernxvat zl Ohssl QIQf onpx bhg naq jngpuvat gurz evtug arkg gb rnpu bgure naljnl, naq tbg n ybg zber rawblzrag bhg bs vg.
V nyfb unq ceboyrzf jvgu fbzr bgure rcvfbqrf va Frnfba 1 bs Natry jurer Ohssl whfg enaqbzyl cbcf vagb YN gb lryy ng Natry… naq V unq AB VQRN JUL, hagvy V jrag onpx naq erjngpurq jung jnf tbvat ba va Frnfba 4 bs Ohssl.
Gur jevgref bs obgu fubjf xarj gur gvzr-fybgf jurer evtug ba gbc bs rnpu bgure. Fbzr rcvfbqrf jrer yvgrenyyl zrnag gb or pbzcnavba rcvfbqrf.
Lrnu, ohg vs lbh'er sbphfvat ba Ohssl, lbh qba'g arrq zber guna gur xabjyrqtr gung fbzrguvat unccrarq va Y.N. gurl'er hcfrg nobhg.
…Jvxvcrqvn npghnyyl fnlf gur jbeqf "pbzcnavba rcvfbqrf." Gur Ohssl Jvxv fnlf "pebffbire."
Sha snpg.
Well, apparently he is planning on WATCHING them all, but only WRITING about certain ones that cross over with Buffy? I don't know, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Mark, but that's the impression I got.
thith wath callehd 'Whedonth Thyndrome" on TVTropeth for quithe a while.
Obviously he has his side gig as a Vegas magician. With a shiny, shiny jacket.
Gung'f ernyyl fbzrguvat gung ohtf zr nobhg gur jubyr zlgubybtl. Bar Fynlre sbe gur jubyr jbeyq… hhhhhhtu, gunax tbq nyy gur jbeyqraql fghss xrrcf unccravat va Fhaalqnyr, ru?
(V zrna lrnu, lbh pna xvaqn unaqjnir vg orpnhfr jr qb frr bguref jub svtug rivy naq cbgragvnyf naq jngpuref cebonoyl xrrc jngpu nyy bire gur jbeyq, ohg fgvyy…)
Cbbe Tyraa Dhvaa…
…I kinda see that in my head, jvgu Ybear nf uvf snohybhf nffvfgnag.
BUNNICULA.
When I was 6, I saw Bunnicula in the library. Yeah, I just SAW it. The cover. It terrified me. And then I spent the rest of the year playing an involved game of pretend with my best friend in which we were being chased by Bunnicula and it was going to eat us. ALL WITH NO IDEA THAT THE BOOK WAS ACTUALLY HUMOROUS, NOT SCARY.
And then in third grade we read the books for class and I loved them. The end!
I'ma get on the Boreanaz-as-Booth fantrain, too. yesplease
Buffy has been around for more than half of my life
*realisation*
…oh god I haven't drunk enough tonight.
I agree with this comment 100% .
Bgbu, Gur Jvfu *nyy gur rkpynzngvba cbvagf*.
Bgbu, frnfba fvk.
Aw man, I missed that. I'm really sorry. 🙁
Had a little moment there, and I regret it. I like this place too much to want to annoy everyone. Please forgive me?
Actually I went to all ages clubs all the time when I was in high school for shows. They had bars and served alcohol, but were all ages. I got stamps or X's on my hands, though. And most of those clubs still exist, so it definitely happens. The only part of The Bronze that is weird to me is that people go there even when there isn't a band, but if it's a small town with only one place to go…
THOUGHTS ON THIS EPISODE, AS I WATCHED IT, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT HOURS LATER DUE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE SITE:
-Yay, some of our first worldbuilding exposition! Raise your hand if you love exposition!
-I also love magical hacking abilities. yby, ZNTVPNY unpxvat novyvgvrf, nzvevgr thlf?
-xander what is on your shirt? Mushrooms?……..why do I suddenly want to own that horrific mushroom shirt? I don't know, but I do.
-What creepy sewers! The lighting and everything are very horror movie-esque.
-Bu, url Unezbal! Jung'f hc? Abg n inzcver lrg, uhu? Lbh'er orggre bapr lbh'er n inzcver.
-Yes, Willow! Stand up to Cordelia! FIGHT BACK. I was about to tell her to use her AWESOME GOOGLE POWERS, but then remembered that google didn't exist in 1997. WEIRD.
-HAHAHAHA I love the glowing eyes. It's like just the ~*right*~ amount of dazzling.
-oh nooooooooooooes jessie is a vampire~~~
-Ah yes, and it's the end of the world. Natch
-OMG The Vessel is a Mercedes?????
-Can I just say that Buffy's mom is amazing? "The tapes all say I should get used to saying it. No."
-The world is doomed. AND HOW.
I suppose it'll force me to be more creative when trying to describe how inconceivably awesome certain shows are (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, I'm looking at you!), and that's a good thing. 🙂
lol @ "the Vessel is a Mercedes." I like the image of Buffy going around staking cars.
Episode of this show: 2
Apocalypses averted: 1
Guvf nyjnlf xvaqn obgurerq zr er:gur Jvfu. Fubhyqa'g Pbeqryvn'f jvfu unir qrfgeblrq gur jubyr qnza jbeyq? V zrna, V ybir gur Jvfu orpnhfr ovfrkhny inzcver gbegher, ohg fgvyy. *tehzoyrf*
Sure I'll forgive you. Only people I won't is those who make a habit of breaking the rules and/or continuing a clearly unconvincing line of defense, so just don't makes posts like that in the future.
I was just annoyed that Mark wrote in gigantic font in this review to read the site policy because he updated it (granted he called it the spoiler policy), and apparently you didn't. I mean, I made sure to read it and I think I have a pretty clear understanding of the site rules, spoiler policy and all.
Really, you're still welcome on the site. Anyone is so long as they follow the rules.
Sure I'll forgive you. Only people I won't is those who make a habit of breaking the rules and/or continuing a clearly unconvincing line of defense, so just don't makes posts like that in the future.
I was just annoyed that Mark wrote in gigantic font in this review to read the site policy because he updated it (granted he called it the spoiler policy), and apparently you didn't. I mean, I made sure to read it even though I think I have a pretty clear understanding of the site rules, spoiler policy and all.
Really, you're still welcome on the site. Anyone is so long as they follow the rules.
Ngl, I'm kinda proud of my first fandom for that.
Welcome to the Hellmouth, Mark.
Juvpu vf cerggl zhpu ure fcrrpu gb ure zbz va… gur frnfba gjb svanyr, V guvax? FZT znl abg or gur orfg npgerff rire, ohg fur anvyf ure gur gjb ovt fcrrpurf va gur svefg gjb svanyrf.
"Lbh xvyyrq gur orapu."
Bu, Bm….
also, lol @rot13 for that second line.
Bm *___*! Ur vf cebonoyl zl snibhevgr punenpgre ba Ohssl. Qrsvavgryl zl snibhevgr jrerjbys!
Zl snibhevgr vf naq funyy nyjnlf or Gnen (V ybirq Jvyybj jvgu obgu, gubhtu Xraarql qbrfa'g rkvfg QVEGL YVRF), ohg Bm jvyy nyfb nyjnlf unir n fcrpvny cynpr va zl sna urneg.
…god I'm such a fanboy.
Bm vf frpergyl jub V'z fgevivat gb or guebhtu zl gjragvrf. (V'z ubcvat gb zhgngr vagb Tvyrf nsgrejneqf ng fbzr cbvag).
Guvf jung gur pbhafrybef pnyyrq "yvsr cynaavat", evtug?
V pna'g jnvg hagvy ur fubjf hc! Znex vf tbvat gb YBIR uvz.
word.
JUST CALL ME ATOMIC TANGERINE.
Technically we had vampires before… just not so much of the nomming. More of the creepin' and the sparklin'.
I just realized that I watch BSG then Buffy back to back this summer, so I'm only 6 months ahead of your schedule, lol. But I didn't watch Jekyll in between the two, so I felt the same as you getting into Buffy, but I was hooked early on, just like I think you'll be! I can't wait for more!
I won't be posting much in fear of spoiling you, since I've watched this show so many times over the last decade or so that I don't know what my own initial reaction was, but I remember being seven and seeing this exact episode, and feeling the exact same way about the whole "oh, it was just some gang" thing.
In hindsight I find it interesting that this was what I found to be outrageous, and not all the blood, violence and murder.
Ah, cool. I couldn't remember if it was just something they said on the commentaries or if the show got into it. Yay for caution!
I live in Japan right now, and I saw another foreign person yesterday and LEGITIMATELY STARED AT HIM. LIKE A CREEP. He was so tall! And his hair was so light! And his nose was so big! …And then I remembered that I'm a blue-eyed red-haired English girl, and this is probably EXACTLY WHAT JAPANESE PEOPLE THINK WHEN THEY SEE ME.
(sans the tall. Because I am many things, but I am not tall).
I've seen some lore where they burn the skin on contact, like the crosses/crucifixes do. In fact, I think it's in Dracula.
lol, they COULD be used as itching powder then!
… at like 31:19 when she is getting supplies from the chest is that a jar of communion hosts?
My roommate and I actually discussed this while watching the episode today. We decided that she licks them and throws them like ninja stars. Those things get really gummy and sticky when damp.
True. V qba'g rire erpnyy ure npghnyyl hfvat gurz gubhtu…
I love Angel's sad, I have no friends, face. It's kinda a decent bit of acting from someone who can't really act yet. That and Giles!
"Ohssl Fhzzref – Pynff Cebgrpgbe." *pevrf*
Right, so the Bronze makes no sense. Let's get that out of the way right now.
Also, didn't Cordy say there was "no cover tonight"? Why was the bouncer counting money?
Yes! It makes no sense!
Embrace your celebrity status, Mark! Embrace it, I say!
Shaal fgbel. Jura V jnf jngpuvat gur svefg srj rcvfbqrf, V jnf guvaxvat "Url, vf Jvyybj pehfuvat ba Knaqre? Orpnhfr V'z srryvat yvxr fur vf," zrer ZVAHGRF orsber guvf jnf npghnyyl erirnyrq va pnaba. Naq V jnf whfg yvxr "Qnza, V zhfg or tbbq."
I agree that Cordelia's language and behaviour is problematic but at the same time, it is totally in line with her character, she is offensive as a whole. It makes sense to me in that she's got this completely deluded "senior guys are so much more interesting" thing going on and so when Jesse tells her to shut up, she falls in line because she thinks that's how men should be. (I'm not suggesting this is right at all by the way. ). Also I feel that as a strong girl with a big personality she probably feels at a subconscious level that at last someone has got the balls to stand up to her. Vg'f fhcre vagrerfgvat va yvtug bs gur snpg gung fur tbrf bhg jvgu Knaqre yngre ba, jub vf gur pbzcyrgr bccbfvgr gb ure snagnfl naq lrg vf abg n pbzcyrgr snvyher. V gbbx gung nf n fvta gung fur jnf svanyyl tebjvat hc n ovg. Fnqyl vg qvqa'g, naq znlor pbhyqa'g, ynfg.
George Takei as Star Peace Ambassdor is awsome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTCr5Z-0lA
I don’t need to rush into another relationship after Battlestar Galactica, okay
I am amazed you are tackling another show just what, TWO WEEKS after finishing BSG. (the series finale is the end for me, and for most fans I think). That show just left ruin and tears in its wake, I couldn't even look at the tv for months afterwards, forget starting another show. You are a braver man than I, Mark.
V ybir gur fubj naq nyy (nfvqr sebz jura vg'f oernxvat zl urneg) ohg jbj vf vg ceboyrzngvp cerggl zhpu npebff gur obneq.
V'z fgvyy gerxxvat zl jnl guebhtu vg ohg V whfg tbg qbar jvgu gur rcvfbqr va gur zragny vafgvghgvba jurer gurl'er genpxvat gur Jenvgu… naq zna, oeb. V whfg xrcg guvaxvat "Lrnu, Znex zvtug raq hc univat gb ubyq qbja gur pncf xrl sbe n juvyr ba guvf bar…" Abg tbvat gb or cerggl Naq jr fgvyy unir gur enpvfg gehpx rcvfbqr va frnfba bar. Lbh xabj gur bar. Jvgu gur Fgebat Rzcbjrerq Srznyr (gz) jub unf frk jvgu Qrna naq jr arire frr/urne sebz ntnva.
That third paragraph is not-ok? I'd have thought it was, and it's hard to sell the show to a new viewer/talk about it without telling them at least that general thing – at this rate, I won't be able to say anything in a suggestion for markwatches/markreads other than "this is REALLY GOOD" or "SHIT GETS SO REAL". This is no more spoilery than the back of a DVD cover/book blurb with quotes from critics etc.
The difference being that he doesn't read those blurbs on the backs of DVDs and books because they tend to contain spoilers. Phrases like "Shit gets real" and "You are not prepared" have basically become in jokes on this site and hold true no matter what Mark is reading/watching which pulls them out of spoiler territory. But anything that starts to get even a little more specific is off-limits. Half the fun is watching Mark discover this on his own, like we all did at one point or another. Don't worry, he is committed to sticking with it. You don't need to convince him that he should
If you read the spoiler policy, he says that the rule of thumb is if he hasn't read/seen/experienced it yet, don't talk about it. Basically, "you're not prepared" is about as spoilery as we're allowed to be on this site. I doubt the third paragraph would bother Mark too much, which is why I didn't delete or edit the comment. I just want to warn everyone to be very careful about talking about future seasons and events, even in a general way.
I remember reading an interview with Kristine Sutherland (Joyce!!) who said that DB was one of the guys she saw going in for Angel when she came in about her part, and (paraphrased) totally approved of him and was happy to see he'd got the part.
(so that means Angel is…..mom-approved? Still hideous clothes, though – that collar makes me cringe)
That would have been interesting, but as with all "what-could-have-been" issues with casting on a show I like, I really can't imagine Cordelia as not Charisma Carpenter. She's the best!
I agree, I love her! I just wanted to point out that originally they were going to have at least one POC on the cast.
I'm so excited to experience the series through new eyes, I read a lot of the BtVS books before I started watching the series, so I was spoiled for a lot of the plot points. Fcrnxvat bs obbxf, gur Jvpxrq Jvyybj fgbelyvar vf n snagnfgvp gevybtl, V uvtuyl erpbzzraq vg, V guvax gung vg ernyyl nqqf avpryl gb gur pnaba fgbel, rira gubhtu vg vfa'g pnaba vgfrys (vg gnxrf cynpr va n Ohsslirefr 'nygreangr qvzrafvba' be fbzrguvat).
-I always completely forget about Jesse, so whenever I re-watch the first two episodes It's a surprise to see him.
-Originally Sarah Michelle Gellar auditioned for Cordelia and Charisma Carpenter auditioned for Buffy, I can't even begin to imagine what the show and characters would have been like if that happened!
-I love Joyce Summers, you can really tell that she tries hard to be a good parent.
-“I have to have the most expensive thing, not because it’s the most expensive but because it costs more” I LOVE the delivery of this line.
-V xabj vg'f haeryngrq, ohg V pna'g jnvg hagvy ur trgf gb Frnfba 5 jvgu Qnja. V jnf pbzcyrgryl fcbvyrq sbe ure ragenapr, fb V unir gb ivpnevbhfyl rkcrevrapr gur pbashfvba guebhtu Znex!
"Originally Sarah Michelle Gellar auditioned for Cordelia and Charisma Carpenter auditioned for Buffy, I can't even begin to imagine what the show and characters would have been like if that happened!" – Did not know this (or if I did I have forgotten it…. how odd would that be.
V pna'g vzntvar univat orra fcbvyrq sbe gung… naq abj gung lbh zragvba vg gung jvyy or ybnqf bs sha. Gur pbashfvba bs zl ragver snzvyl (jub nyfb jngpurq ogif) jnf vafnar.
V fgbccrq jngpuvat Ohssl bevtvanyyl cerpvfryl sbe gung ernfba (gur pbashfvba bire Qnja). V whfg erzrzore ghavat gb gur frnfba cerzvrer naq orvat yvxr "Jub gur shpx fur? Ab, ab, onpx hc, frevbhfyl thlf. FVFGRE? URYYB, ERZRZORE ZR – gur crefba jub'f orra jngpuvat lbhe fubj sbe sbhe lrnef abj, V qba'g xabj nalguvat nobhg nal tbq qnzarq fvfgr– shpx guvf abvfr, zna"
Vs V'q bayl orra cngvrag guebhtu yvxr sbhe zber rcvfbqrf, gurl jbhyq unir fgnegrq srrqvat zr rabhtu pehzof, zna, ohg… lbh xabj grrantref. Jr'er tunfgyl ornfgf.
Bu, gung jnf gur BAYL ernfba V pbagvahrq jngpuvat… V zrna V jnf whfg nyy guvatf hcfrg jvgu gung frnfba ohg V whfg ARRQRQ GB XABJ.
V bayl jngpurq hc guebhtu gur guveq frnfba va erny gvzr, orsber zl yvsr vagreirarq naq V jnf gbb ohfl sbe frevnyvmrq gryrivfvba. OHG, va pbyyrtr, V qrpvqrq gb jngpu nyy gur frnfbaf V'q zvffrq, naq V npghnyyl ernyyl yvxrq gur jubyr Qnja guvat! Cebonoyl sbe gur FBYR ERNFBA gung V unq gur bcgvba gb whfg xrrc jngpuvat rcvfbqrf hagvy gurl rkcynvarq gung fuvg. Vs V'q unq gb fvg jrrx nsgre jrrx va pbashfvba, V cebonoyl jbhyq unir entrdhvg fb uneq.
Please don't use "insane" on this site.
Sorry, my apologies.
V erzrzore jngpuvat bar oyvaq yviroybt bs gur fubj, naq gur thl'f ernpgvba gb Qnja jnf yvgrenyyl "V ybbx sbejneq gb svaqvat bhg jul fur zbirq onpx nsgre orvat jvgu ure qnq guvf jubyr gvzr." Uvf oenva whfg pbhyqa'g cebprff gung Ohssl unq n fvfgre bhg bs abjurer.
Very literally laughing out loud. V PNA'G JNVG HAGVY ZNEX TRGF GURER…. NU! Jr fubhyq unir n qnja pbhagqbja… fbzrbar trg ba gung… Pnyy vg gur "Znex'f zvaq rkcybqrf" pbhagqbja. Boivbhfyl yvax vg naq gryy uvz abg gb pyvpx vg… ohg… vg jvyy tvir hf nyy fbzrguvat gb ybbx sbejneq gb. Nygubhtu gurer ner n ovyyvba guvatf orsber gura gung V nz ybbxvat sbejneq gb nf jryy.
I tried TVD first season, and frankly Elena and Stefan make me want to tear off my own head and eat it.
I know everyone keeps making the comparison, but it's nowhere near Buffy, not even close. Maybe I'd feel differently if it had different people for protagonists, but whatevs.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT THAT UP WHEN MARK GETS TO THE END of BUFFY. (I think the last clips in it were from S6, so maybe after he finishes S6?)
There are a couple of clips from the first few episodes of season 7. I think through episode 4? We will have to post it as soon as we can, though
Since Harry Potter this is easily the thing I am most excited about… I'm also pretty excited about LOTR but I'll probably geek out over this more. AND HE'S DOING THEM AT THE SAME TIME. I really can just not handle.
Obb. Vg vf fb rnfl gb whfg pnyy gurz gur fpbbol tnat/ V unir gbgnyyl pbzcyrgryl ersreraprq gurz orsber gung jnl va bgure aba-ohssl znex erivrjf. Bu jryy… (naq bs pbhefr vg jnf Knaqre…)
I searched crayola colors… I wasn't crayon/marker specific.
I feel like there’s a guy like him in every 90s TV show or movie XD
Gur ynggre jvyy frrz gb or arj gb Frnfba 7 bs Ohssl (naq cerggl zhpu nyernql frg hc ol ure ynfg nccrnenapr va Frnfba 4) naq gur sbezre V ubarfgyl qba'g guvax jvyy ernyyl fgvpx va Znex'f zvaq. Ur'yy whfg unir gur inthr abgvba gung fbzrguvat unccraf gb ure gung ur'yy frr jura ur trgf gb Natry. Uvagvat havasbezngviryl ng nabgure frevrf vf ernyyl abg gur fnzr guvat nf fcbvyvat shgher rcvfbqrf.
That would be disappointing. They deserve attention in their own right.
Well, it's Mark's site, so… *shrug*
We'll see how he feels when he gets there.
If Mark is going to watch all of Angel, he might be able to put up two reviews a day. I dunno.
It even would have been nice if they'd played up Carpenter's Latina heritage a bit. That would have been totally feasible within the universe of the show and easy enough to do. Alas for what could have been.
I respectfully disagree. I think certain combinations should be watched together. They were written to be seen back to back. Gur pregnva pebff bire rcvfbqrf qrny jvgu n pbzzba "birenyy zlgubf cbvag bs gur jrrx" vs lbh jvyy. Beyond those few combinations, it's unnecessary.
V bayl jvfu Qbpgbe Jub naq Gbepujbbq unq orra tvira gur nzbhag bs vapyhfvir Havirefny jevgvat gung Ohssl naq Natry jrer.
They were written so that you'd get more out of it if you saw them back-to-back but not so that you absolutely had to.
Chartreuse
PS: RIP Blizzard Blue
Yeah I was very reluctant to watch BtVS after I'd seen the cheesy movie (and of course Eastern Iowa didn't have the WB or UPN at this point… really the show wasn't available on my cable until BtVS was in it's 4th season… and I was still resisting watching it then).
I'm so happy you are watching Buffy! I am going to enjoy coming here everyday to read what you say! Yay!
Oh yes, sorry! Um… can I correct it? Doesn't look like I can.
Let this be a lesson to others. 🙂
With an IntenseDebate account, you can correct stuff before someone replies to it, but not after. Don't sweat it.
It is true. He was walking his dog and was a neighbor of a friend of one of the directors, who told her (the director) about him. It was in a video interview on a DVD.
Oh good, I'm so glad you apparently have the same process I do because whenever I skip breakfast for church and then I receive Eucharist, there's a moment when I envision a box of cereal with the words THE BODY OF CHRIST emblazoned across the top and then in smallish words across the front "Breakfast of Champions" and I just… man… if God doesn't have a sense of humor, I'm so, so, so eternally fucked.
I actually got the term Christ Chex from Dane Cook. But I am with you with God needing a sense of humor.
Well like I said most shows seem to be better nowadays.
Of course, just because other races are present AT ALL doesn't mean you can't fuck up writing them real bad.
We are indeed a formidable fandom. If Whedon ever had such an inclination, he could, like, easily become a mayor of a pretty sizable city or governor of a pretty small state.
Ohg abg Gur Znlbe, orpnhfr gung'q or perrcl.
Can I play? I want to be Purple Pizzazz.
I love that Cordelia is played by someone named Charisma Carpenter.
(Just a note, the rot13 in this post is only relevant to Buffy, not any other show, for those who might be either hesitant or anxious to translate it.)
I understand why people would be offended by certain words in certain contexts, but it doesn't make sense to me to expect that TV writers would sanitise the language of their characters because someone might be offended.
Offensive or not, ableist or not, that *is* how people talk. People aren't perfect, and they will say things like "that's lame" or "you're crazy", without intending any harm or offence. (I'm not defending their use, just saying that people *do* say them, and they say them without even thinking about it, as we've seen in these threads every time someone has to be called on it.)
We don't (or at least try not to) say things like that here because we know the rules, but I think it's fair that fictional characters would, especially if we can't expect them to have been called on it before. And since most shows aren't meant to deliver an explicit message of sensitivity (rira sbe nyy vgf cebterffvirarff, Ohssl vf cerggl aba-zrffntrl jura vg pbzrf gb guvatf yvxr bcra-zvaqrqarff nobhg frkhny bevragngvba), I don't think we should expect characters *to* be called on it when they say something inappropriate, because again, in many places in life, people get away with using words like 'crazy' and 'lame' (and other words that also aren't more 'obvious' slurs) without ever finding out they can be offensive or insulting.
I'd rather shows be as realistic as possible with dialogue, especially since characters already aren't allowed to swear, which, let's face it, is pretty unrealistic itself. Removing *any* word that could offend would, IMO, make characters feel kind of robotic and lifeless. (Sbe rknzcyr, jura Pnyro fubjf hc, uvf zvfbtlavfgvp ynathntr vf dhvgr n guvat gb orubyq, ohg vg jbhyq qrgenpg sebz uvf gehyl bssrafvir punenpgre vs ur *qvqa'g* pnyy nyy gur tveyf 'juber' naq 'ovgpu'.)
Right? Right!
I will say no more because rot13 is giving me a headache right now. I might need glasses.
And dreeeeeamy *swoon* I'm sorry what were we saying again?
YES YES YES. FOREVER YES. He was in some movie I just saw and it was just a small part but I almost screamed out of excitement IN THE MOVIE THEATER when he came on.
Oh… he was the husband of the coach in The Mighty Macs. That was gonna bother me… also HE HAS A TWITTER HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS. http://twitter.com/David_Boreanaz
Also… I'm from Philly which just makes my undying love SO MUCH STRONGER. I have watched his dad on tv countless times. I know people that went to Malvern Prep and have been to Malvern Prep many many many times. <3 SO MUCH.
From the AV Club review of that (Spoilers at the link):
[U]bj qvq gurl unaqyr n avtug yvxr Abirzore 14gu, 2000, jura gur zlgubybtl bs gur Jurqbairefr jvqrarq, qrrcrarq naq yratgurarq bire gur pbhefr bs gjb cerggl greevsvp ubhef? Qvq gurve oenvaf yrnx bhg bs gurve rnef, birejuryzrq ol gur njrfbzrarff?
V jnag gb frr Znex ernpgvat yvxr guvf, naq lbh arrq gb jngpu gubfr rcvfbqrf onpx gb onpx gb trg gur shyy rssrpg
I agree.
Someone may have mentioned this, but I'm really too tired to read all your comments, but Welcome to the Hellmouth/The Harvest was actually a two hour opener. When it was first broadcast, there was no cliffhanger, just a commercial break. It was just one two-hour straight shot. It's only on the later showings of repeats that they split it into two parts.
As for the fight scene and some other technical issues, as I understand it, at the time they were running on a relatively small budget, especially since this was a mid-season replacement to start with, so there are some bits that look cheesy for the same reason that original Star Trek looks extra-cheesy, and it has to do with only having so much money to spend on effects.
The only other thing I want to say is, what are you talking about Giles wants to speed things up? Buffy's the one who cuts off the "One girl" speech with, "He loves this part," forcing GIles to make an irritated sound and cut to the chase.
V guvax gur punenpgre bs Obbgu vf n zhpu zber flzcngurgvp punenpgre sbe zr, crefbanyyl. V arire yvxrq Natry, abg rira jura ur unq uvf bja fubj (V jngpurq gung sbe Qblyr naq gura sbe Jrf naq Pbeql). Natry'f whfg gbb… ZBCRL.
Cyhf V unir na hanonfurq ybir sbe gur Juvgr Ung.
I also agree. Vtabenapr ng orfg ba Tvyrf' cneg, Jngpure'f Pbhapvy cebcntnaqn ng jbefg. Vg fhvgf gurz irel jryy gb xrrc gur jbeyq bs svtugvat inzcf naq qrzbaf oynpx naq juvgr.
Yeah, it always bugged me that there are no asians or hispanics in the show especially since its set in santa barbara/southern california. V zrna fur raqf hc tbvat gb n HP naq gurer nera'g nal Nfvnaf? Cffu lrnu evtug. :C