Mark Watches ‘Battlestar Galactica’: S01E02 – Water

In the second episode of the first season of Battlestar Galactica, Boomer begins to experience memory and time loss and becomes concerned that she is responsible for the loss of 60% of the Galactica’s water supply. Intrigued? Then it’s time for Mark to watch Battlestar Galactica.

I think one of the things I’ll probably come to enjoy about BSG, if this episode is any indication, is the writers’ ability to tell uniquely personal stories amidst the chaos and tension. I honestly believed it would be a good while before we’d deal with Boomer’s Cylon nature, but the show does this much earlier, and does it incredibly well. Without spelling out everything to us, we learn so much more about Cylon agents and how they function.

The cold open to “Water” is arresting: Shannon “Boomer” Valerii seemingly “wakes up” in  an equipment room, in her flight suit and soaked from head to toe with water. Not knowing how she got there, she opens a duffel bag near her to discover a towel, which to me suggested so much about how Boomer is programmed. When she discovers a G-4 explosive in the bag…oh god, BOOMER WHY.

Here’s the thing: I would have been kind of annoyed if the show had introduced us to this rad character, Boomer, and then six episodes down the road, she just turns “evil” and then she’s dead. Instead, Ronald D. Moore gives us what is essentially an entire episode from the point of view of a sleeper Cylon agent, complete with the moral and identity crisis that comes along with it. Even in that first scene, Grace Park’s reaction is remarkably genuine, and without saying much of anything at all, we can begin to understand that these Cylon agents are so utterly human that, until they are activated, their identity is distinctly human. Before that, all I’d known for sure is that their biology functioned like a human’s.

So where does that leave Boomer? How long has she been a Cylon? What sort of experiences are real, and does she have a planted memory, too? I imagine a lot of these thoughts were running through her head as she headed to the small arms locker, only to discover that five other G-4 explosives were missing. Seriously, what a set-up for an episode!

It’s natural for Boomer to seek out Tyrol, too, but even that has a new context for me, and my mind started wandering. What I wanted to know most (and what “Water” doesn’t give me, which is perfectly fine) was how Boomer came into all of this. Clearly, some time had to have passed for her to develop the relationship that she has with Tyrol, enough so that when Boomer asks to speak to Captain Tyrol, fright in her voice, Cally would turn to give them a look of acknowledgment, knowing that they’re probably just looking for privacy to be consenting adults. Those things take time to create! Which then leads me to thinking….christ, how long ago did the Cylons actually develop this technology? It had to be years, right? So this must have been some sort of long, patient con of sorts….OH GOD I CAN’T STOP THINKING ABOUT THIS.

And I actually like that this show is already making me ask questions and desire answers like this just by the second episode. It reminds me of my fascination with LOST and how the serialized, mythological nature of that show caused me to do the same thing. Battlestar Galactica itself is highly, highly serialized, especially since, so far, very little time passes in between episodes.

Ok, enough speculation and theorizing for now. It didn’t take me long to figure out where this episode was headed. As Tyrol and Boomer had their frantic discussion about the bizarre nature of what had happened to Boomer, Roslin’s visit to the Galactica made me connect the dots: The episode is called “Water,” and she’s coming to learn more about the water reclamation process on board the ship that will help keep the fleet alive. Oh Christ, the explosives are in the water tanks. How else would Boomer have woken up soaking wet?

Simultaneous to this realization, the subplot of “Water” specifically deals with the interactions between Roslin and Commander Adama, but not in a way that brings about some grand sort of conflict. I actually enjoy that, for the time being, these characters are largely getting along. Of course, I imagine that isn’t going to last, but Roslin and Adama understand one another, and Roslin, in this episode, is quick to admit her limitations as president. She was Secretary of Education, and a lot of what she witnesses on the Galactica is entirely foreign to her. Why does the whole crew dress up for her appearance? Why is she appearing just to watch the transfer of water? It’s all protocol, she assumes, acted out by Adama because he enjoys the display. (A bit of an aside: You know how there are words you hate the sound of? Like how most people hate the word “moist”? I can’t bear the sound of the word “protocol,” which is unfortunate for me as a fan of Star Wars.)

Look, I don’t care if this will make me the worst Battlestar Galactica fan ever, but the Roslin/Adama/Lee story line is ENDLESSLY ADORABLE. They’re like awkward teens! Who talk about books! And feelings! And Roslin basically asks for help from Adama’s son so she can impress him. Oh god I love it. She even shares a tender moment with him regarding the destruction of the Olympic Carrier, telling Lee it’s ok to question his choices in private. Also, no one’s mentioned it in the comments yet, but is this a ship-heavy fandom? Because–not gonna lie–I could see people shipping Roslin/Adama or Roslin/Lee after this episode. That’s mostly a credit to Mary McDonnell because christ I love her so much already. Why aren’t we friends?

I get the sense, though, that much of season one will be devoted to this idea that there is a Cylon agent aboard the Galactica and that Baltar will be forced to develop his test for the crew. The meeting held between Lee, Tigh, Adama, Baltar, and Roslin is another tense scene for the episode, and it’s made all the worse by the appearance of Six to Baltar. Every time Six shows up alongside Baltar, I just get nervous. I’m beginning to understand that others can actually see his reactions to visions of Six, and I think it’s only a matter of time before this becomes a disaster for Baltar.

But all of this is an uncomfortable reality, honestly. How do you discretely test a crew of hundreds (thousands? I don’t know how big the Galactica crew is) without revealing to everyone that Cylons look like humans? It’s clear from Tyrol’s comment early in the episode that way more than five folks know the truth about Cylons, but it’s not quite public knowledge yet. For Baltar, though, this goes counter to his need to be left alone. His intellect has become his curse, in this sense, because he can’t escape others. Ironically, his attempt to explain why his test is logistically difficult ends up getting him a team, led by Gaeta, that will follow him around to help create a Cylon test. WOOPS.

It seems that Baltar simply doesn’t want to get involved. At any moment, someone could discover that he knows a little too much about Cylon technology, and he’ll have to face what he did to bring about the destruction of the human race. I actually don’t think he’ll successfully avoid this, honestly, but I think the writers will extend this conflict out for a while. For now, though, Baltar has to deal with Six and all of the folks assigned to help him. About Six, though….will she act out in rage when she confronts Baltar about his flirting with Starbuck? (BY THE WAY, HOLY HELL WHAT A SCENE) I’m inclined to believe that Six actually did love Baltar, and I’m certain she won’t be pleased. Then again…she’s not real? I think? Oh god, I don’t really know i am confused. 

Speaking about bizarre romantic relationships, isn’t Boomer technically interested in two men and it’s not cheating at all? THAT’S PRETTY AWESOME. Boomer’s relationship with Tyrol is tested throughout “Water,” and Tyrol lets his heart get in the way of his duty. Throughout the entire episode, I kept wanting to shout at him: “JUST TELL SOMEONE. CHRIST, DUDE.” I totally get that he wants to protect Boomer, but you are digging one steep grave at this point.

And yet simultaneously, Boomer is on Caprica with Helo, and the flirtation nearly ends in a kiss. I assume Helo knows about Tyrol, so….holy awkward. Here’s my guess, though: I think Helo already has it in his head that this whole situation is not right. He keeps pressing Boomer to explain why she came back and why she doesn’t have a plan, and I think he’ll soon confront her about her not being the real Boomer. That’ll depressing when that happens, though, because…well, there’s no real Boomer anyway, is there?

I actually don’t know how to answer that question. (Yet.) During the water recon mission, though, we see something I didn’t think was even possible: Boomer resisted her Cylon programming. She was completely aware of the fact that her screen read positive for water, yet she couldn’t bring herself to say it. Even worse, the Cylon “side” of her tries to detonate the last missing G-4 explosive, which is strapped to her seat.

So is the Cylon part of Boomer like a personality? Where did they Cylons even get the blueprint/idea to make a Cylon like Boomer? Is it possible that she is actually the first Boomer, but just got infused with Cylon technology? What’s more important to me, though, is the fact that by having this small victory against her nature, Boomer exerts her own agency of choice: she doesn’t always have to be bound by whatever it is that is trying to get her to sabotage the Galactica.

It doesn’t mean that this is ending anytime soon, and the final moment shows that Boomer seems to be under Cylon control, determined to reach some undetermined destination. So the question remains, then: Can Boomer completely resist Cylon programming, or is she doomed to forever antagonize the crew she’s come to love and respect?

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191 Responses to Mark Watches ‘Battlestar Galactica’: S01E02 – Water

  1. psycicflower says:

    My main thought throughout this episode is ‘JUST TELL SOMEONE!’ I completely understand why Boomer and Chief didn’t say anything and why Chief starts rationalising and thinking of ways to cover for Boomer, it’s got to be hard when it’s someone you know and care about, but even if you believe someone is setting you up you need to tell someone when it’s endangered something as important as your water supply. (Although lol at ‘we’ve got a problem’ being code for sex.)

    ’You look good. I really like your hair.’
    <img src="; border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"> Oh Billy.

    ’ Madam President, if I may? I think you should know that my father… well, this entire ceremony was his idea.’ ‘I know. I think he's enjoying it.’ ‘Well, actually, he hates protocol pomp and all that.’ ‘Really?’ ‘He's making a gesture, trying to make you feel like the president.’
    I love how Roslin and Adama are both trying to please and put each other at ease by showing signs of respect and thinking they’re great doing it, even if they’re not too fond of the procedures, and not realising that the other is doing the exact same thing for them. It’s interesting to see them try and get the feel for each other and how their methods go together, like Adama dealing purely in facts while Roslin wanted some guesses during the briefing.

    My favourite background moment of the episode though is when Gaius is trying to get in on the card game and Gaeta checks his pocket for money to give Gaius to play with.
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    ‘ You know, I remember when president Adar sent the marines into Aerilon. 15 people died. In public, of course, he had to say all the usual things. He– he was sure of what he'd done, made the right choice, stayed the course. But he knew it was a mistake. And he kept the names of the dead in his desk drawer. He said that it was imperative for a leader to remember and learn from the mistakes even if they can't admit to them publicly.’ ‘Do you think we made a mistake?’ ‘I don't know. I don't have a desk drawer yet, but, I have a pocket.’
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    Seriously Roslin, I’m not sure it’s possible for me to love you any more than I already do.

    • psycicflower says:

      Throughout the entire episode, I kept wanting to shout at him: “JUST TELL SOMEONE. CHRIST, DUDE.”
      My main thought throughout this episode is ‘JUST TELL SOMEONE!’

      Clearly we are brain twins Mark.

      • xpanasonicyouthx says:

        OH MY GOD RIGHT. I mean, at the same time, I get it. People make foolish decisions that then morph into the need to keep CONSTANTLY lying in order to prevent it falling apart. BUT OMG.

    • cait0716 says:

      I get the impression that Gaeta has a bit of a crush on Baltar. He's so excited and eager to work with him, seems willing to buy his way into the poker game. Sigh, too bad Baltar seems decidedly heterosexual.

      • enigmaticagentscully says:

        I got that impression too. It's a little bit of hero worship as well, I think. And you can't help but feel sorry for Gaeta, he's so cute! Baltar totally blowing him off is like kicking a puppy.

        • psycicflower says:

          Same here. Gaeta's trying to impress him with his interest in science while Gaius is just trying to think of the quickest way to ditch him.

    • echinodermata says:

      Ha, Dee's expression. Adorable.

    • monkeybutter says:

      Oh, Gaeta, you are way too nice to be working with Baltar.

    • breesquared says:

      Gaeta may be one of my favorites, for real. He's so sweet. I didn't even notice that moment but it's so him.

    • NB2000 says:

      My favourite background moment of the episode though is when Gaius is trying to get in on the card game and Gaeta checks his pocket for money to give Gaius to play with.

      I never noticed that. Totally fits his character.

    • Karen says:

      Yeah, this episode cemented my suspicion that Roslin is going to become my favorite character. ILH.

      I wonder if the reason that Boomer didn't tell Adama right away is because even though Tyrol was reassuring her that losing time like that meant that she'd probably be drugged, Boomer suspects her Cylon-ness on some subconscious level.

      • psycicflower says:

        Yeah, this episode cemented my suspicion that Roslin is going to become my favorite character. ILH.

        My laptop's actually called Roslin (yes I name my technological things) because I'd just started watching BSG when I got it and love Roslin a ridiculous amount.

    • knut_knut says:

      this is kind of a silly point, but I love Roslin's handwriting <3 It reminds me of my grandmother's- it's very maternal and sweet and homey, which is kind of sad considering they've all just lost their homes and their families.

  2. plunderb says:

    I ship Chief/Me.

  3. @maybegenius says:

    I remember first seeing Boomer's struggle with realizing that she's not really who she always thought she was, and her terror and pain at the idea. It's so chilling. Grace Park is amazing.

    • hpfish13 says:

      I remember watching the end of the miniseries and being worried that Boomer being a Cylon meant that at some point (when her Cylon-ness showed up) the wonderful subtlety and nuance of her performance would disappear, and she'd be a totally different character. Then 2 episodes later we got this version of events instead, with her intense struggle. I love this show and how it surprises me with good things!

  4. A minor point on a good episode: I wish I could take Crashdown (Sam Witwer) seriously, but whenever he's onscreen, all I can think about is The Force Unleashed and how much that game frustrated me. Like it's his fault or something, I know.

  5. LucyGoosey says:

    IIRC, this was a pretty ship heavy fandom, but most of it was canon or canon-supported pairings, not out of nowhere ones.

    I love "Water" because its my favorite aspect of the series storytelling- that of survival. I love the firey battles and the philosophical questions too, but this, the basic struggle for the things that keep the ragtag fleet alive is what compelled me.

  6. Jenny_M says:

    Waking up soaking wet and sleeping upright in a closet the morning after a night you don't remember? Yeah, I've been there, Boomer. I've been there.

  7. echinodermata says:

    I love Grace Park, so seeing her highlighted right at the beginning of the episode pleases me. But I alas don't feel comfortable speaking about her character(s) here since I know too much. I'll leave it at this: loving it so far.

    I also love political meetings. I don't need robots and spaceships and explosions to please me in scifi, although they are welcome. Basically, I'm sure I'm the type of audience member that producers and executives would love since I don't require a big effects budget to be happy, even in scifi. Hell, I love a good bottle episode.

    One thing I quite enjoy about this episode is the character interactions. I think Adama's and Roslin's interactions are consistently interesting, but I also like Dualla and Billy together, and Gaeta and anyone, and Starbuck and anyone. And then Boomer is always interesting, even alone, considering her secret.

    Love Starbuck's swagger.
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    And O HAI SHOW I see what you're doing with Helo and (this) Sharon.
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    • psycicflower says:

      One thing I quite enjoy about this episode is the character interactions.

      I agree. I really like all of the characters and it's interesting learning more about them and how they relate to each other.

      • enigmaticagentscully says:

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        • Pseudonymph says:

          So excited for this: Gbz Mnerx

          • notemily says:

            Htu, ernyyl? V ungr uvz.

            • Pseudonymph says:

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            • Pseudonymph says:

              Okay, I totally thought I replied to you awhile ago but I guess it didn't work so here we go again:

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            • enigmaticagentscully says:

              Is it weird that I could work out what you said without using the cypher?
              Anyway, I totally agree with you. But I'm looking forward to the next episode all the same!

    • breesquared says:

      i totally agree with you about the sci-fi. The thing I love about the genre is not that it's crazy and wild and HOLY CRAP ~SCIENCE~ but that it basically takes real people and puts them in a new situation (which may be crazy and wild and holy shit science). The more realistic sci-fi/fantasy is, for me, the better I love it.

    • Pseudonymph says:

      God, Helo is so dreamy! How does he do it? How?!

      I was reading another review of BSG awhile back and the author referred to Helo by his "official" title: Hot Hot Helo.

      I guess I'm mostly replying to your gif but I agree with the rest of your comment. I just had to vent some of my Helo adoration.

      • echinodermata says:

        Yeah, I think people who aren't into sci-fi think it's just nerdy fun, but well, sci-fi is the exploration of the human condition and all. At the end of the day it's about people, even if that means exploring what it means to be a person via robots. I do really like that BSG is making this political drama/relationship drama/finding resources drama, even if it's in space.

        P.S. please avoid using "crazy" on this site.

        • Pseudonymph says:

          Ugh, I agree with this sentiment so much! My boyfriend and I gush over this perspective on sci-fi frequently. I've tried using this argument to convince nay-sayers (people who think it's just nerdy fun and therefore inherently shallow). It never works and it convinces me that they are not true lovers of storytelling and literature. Maybe that's not fair but I don't care. Science fiction opens up so many avenues for exploring human nature which we simply could not reach through realistic or historical fiction alone.

      • echinodermata says:

        Haha, that's a great name.

        I know this sets up omg drama with Helo liking Sharon when there's another Sharon involved with the chief, but I can't be at all upset with this twist since they're so gorgeous together that at the very least, I must ship it for shallow reasons.

      • Karen says:

        YES. Helo is currently the only character on the show that is ~doing it for me~ in that way. Unf.

    • breesquared says:

      Also, Starbuck and her swagger make me regret ever voting against her in the Fandom March Madnesses which I'm sure I probably did at one point, being unfamiliar with her.

  8. NB2000 says:

    Look, I don’t care if this will make me the worst Battlestar Galactica fan ever

    I dunno looks like you're fitting in pretty well so far. You're hooked by the questions and have declared love for Mary McDonnell, perfectly normal for this show.

    ITA about the Adama/Laura/Lee parts of this episode. Bill and Laura in particular are still trying to work out how to interact with each other and it's so much fun to watch. Particularly the scene in his quarters with the books. Bonding over their love of literature (and oooh worldbuilding with the different novels and authors they mention). I'm totally on the Bill/Laura ship, which I'm sure I mentioned in the last review so I should move on.

    I still love the scenes between Laura and Lee like the one where they discuss the Olympic Carrier. I mentioned somewhere in the miniseries reviews that I love their dynamic, there's a really lovely connection between them that comes out in those scenes.

    "Now if only you had an actual Cylon detector" Cue the obligatory "He does! In his pants!" jokes. They never get old.

    This episode is a good example of why I love Grace Park (well I love everyone in this cast but I'm making a point here). Technically she's playing the same character twice but she manages to make them ever so slightly different. Most notably with Boomer where she has this really freaked out look in her eyes for a lot of the episode, like in the scenes in Tyrol's office when she's telling him what happened. Basically, she's amazing and owns the episode.

    Billy, you continue to be a big adorable dork. Nobody wants to be told they look "fine".

    So everyone puts on full dress uniform with the sashes and shoulder braids to welcome Laura…except Dee who hasn't bothered. It's a really minor thing but it always stands out to me.

    • notemily says:

      I love the novels they mention, too. A MURDER ON PICON! I want to read that.

      Also, nobody wants to be told they look fine, unless they're being told they look fiiiiiine.

  9. knut_knut says:

    HOLY SHIT the beginning of this episode was SO TENSE. Even though I was beyond confused (I thought for some reason Galactica!Boomer was Caprica!Boomer and had no idea how she got from Caprica to Galactica and then back to Caprica….I think the fact that she was wet confused me but anyway) my heart was racing. I love that I can have no idea what is going on and yet feel so nervous. Everything about this show is wonderful <3

  10. monkeybutter says:

    The only good thing about the word "moist": it got me to watch Dead Like Me.

    Why can't anyone see that Baltar is lying?! It's frustrating, because it seems so blatant, but are they just chalking it up to him being a weird genius, or do they need to trust him so badly that they can't conceive of him lying. I liked the flirting with Starbuck, but that's mostly because I love her expressions; it's funny that we didn't see Six at all during that scene.

    Boomer 🙁 Her internal conflict is really interesting, and along with Six it's giving me an interesting picture of the Cylon's. They're pretty damn complicated. But I'm also really, really sad for her. I hope she has more small victories in the future.

    • knut_knut says:

      I think they just tune out his science babble and assume he knows what he's doing WHICH IS SO STUPID BECAUSE CYLONS, THEY LOOK LIKE US, HE COULD BE ONE OF THEM WHY ARE YOU TRUSTING EVERYONE??!! But in the miniseries, when he was explaining how he knew that guy (I forgot his name already…the one who got left behind and actually WAS a cylon) was a cylon I completely bought it for a while. Yes, I'm incredibly gullible and it doesn't take much to trick me, but he sounds REALLY confident when he's going on about science stuff, even though the rest of the time he's a sweaty mess.

      • knut_knut says:

        actually maybe confident isn't the word I'm looking for…he sounds like he knows what he's talking about

        • monkeybutter says:

          Confident works! Or competent. Maybe you were susceptible to the charms of his accent? Baltar's the only one with a British accent (that I know of), and I think it's funny that the smart guy who everyone considers an authority speaks differently than the rest of the cast. It's like they're making fun of that stereotype.

          • knut_knut says:

            haha, that's probably it! That's kind of embarrassing for me… but he also had charts/"data" and everyone knows that's legit! (even if it's really just nonsense)

      • notemily says:

        I think they assume Baltar isn't a Cylon because he's been a known and respected public figure for a while. They don't know, obviously, how far back the Cylon plans go.

    • plunderb says:

      re: Baltar

      When Adama cuts him off and says, "Look, it's obvious that . . ." I expect him to finish with, "you are full of shit." But then he goes and says something like, "it's obvious that you're going to need some resources and manpower." Why can you not see through him, Adama?!?

      I think this says something about how many people perceive those who are very talented with computers/technology/science as being fundamentally outside of the rules of normal social interaction. Adama is a noted technophobe and he is so snowed by Baltar's technobabble that he chalks up his weird behavior to "genius" rather than dishonesty. He just expects the nerd to be super awkward, so when he acts and speaks awkwardly, Adama lets it pass. We know Baltar is actually pretty smooth usually, but all Adama sees is socially-dysfunctional nerd.

      • monkeybutter says:

        Yes! I had the same reaction! Though if Roslin spends all day with the twitchy dude, it wouldn't be fair for Adama to quickly pick up on his odd behavior. I think you're right that the awkward nerd stereotype is giving him an advantage.

        • slybrarian says:

          I think it helps that, what with the apocalypse and all, everyone is suffering from a dozen different kinds of PTSD. The fact that he's twitchy and occasionally talks to himself probably isn't enough to make him stand out compared to the people who have completely broken down

      • knut_knut says:

        ME TOO!! I was really disappointed in Adama at first but I guess he can't be the unrealistically perfect hero we all want or else the show would be boring (kind of).

      • hassibah says:

        I was just going to say this.
        Also possibly that Adama thinks he's unhinged/fuckeed up for other reasons, but he doesn't really have a lot of options right now.

    • Karen says:


      … I have very strong feelings about these things, apparenlty. lol.

      • Gillyweed says:

        For me it's gorgeous. I hate it so much!

      • NB2000 says:

        Ugh panties irritates the frak out of me. I have no idea why, it just does.

        • Karen says:

          Yeah, my hatred for that word is completely irrational too. It's like nails on a chalkboard.

          I'm trying to make "knickers" happen in the US, but it's hard to do that without sounding like a pretentious Anglophile.

          • enigmaticagentscully says:

            I live in England, and I always hated the word 'knickers'.
            It sounds so…Victorian boarding school.

            Everyone I know just uses 'pants'. Though I head in the US that means jeans or trousers?

            …this is kind of a weird discussion. ^^

            • Karen says:

              haha. I'm living in England right now too, actually. Undergarments aren't really a huge topic of conversation for me, but from my experience the ratio of usage of knickers to pants is like 1:4. I wonder if it depends on what part of the country you're in. I'm in London. To me, knickers connotates cute lady underwear whereas pants is more just like generic. I am putting way too much thought into this. haha

              And yes, in the US pants just means trousers. Remembering to say trousers instead of pants has been something very important for me. Because telling someone you like their pants (when you mean trousers) is VERY AWKWARD.

          • hassibah says:

            British people have the cutest words for everything though. Knickers sounds way too much like another word though so I always worry about being heard wrong.

            I'm totally fascinated by people getting grossed out by words-themselves-I don't really do that. Unf is prolly the closest thing for me (sorry guys) but it doesn't like really upset me, I just think it's so weird sounding

          • Arione says:

            Undies? Also allows for one of my least favourite non-words ever grundies.

  11. cait0716 says:

    I definitely ship Adama/Laura. But the thought of Laura/Lee wigs me out. Maybe it's the age difference? Or just the fact that I want her to be with his dad, not him.

    There's a line you didn't mention, but that I absolutely love. It's almost a throwaway line of Baltar's when he claims that "every woman has a secret beauty". I just love that sentiment. As much as he is definitely a womanizer (among other bad things), that sort of humanizes him a bit. It's not that he's indiscriminate, he really does believe that every woman has her own, unique beauty. More people should think like that.

    • enigmaticagentscully says:

      Laura/Lee kind of wigs me out too, not because of the age difference, but because…it just doesn't work somehow. I think it's that their relationship to me is very un-romantic. I hate to bring up the whole 'schoolteacher' thing, but to me it always seemed like they had a kind of teacher/student thing going on. I saw Laura as a more like a mentor; someone Lee respects and looks up to, and is happy to work for because she represents something a little different to what his Father stands for. I really like their platonic relationship (in the same way I love how she interacts with Billy) and it totally threw me when I found out people were shipping them.

      Also, Adama and Roslin are totally Space Parents for the fleet. I'm just sayin'.

    • notemily says:

      I FriendShip Laura/Lee, but I can't see them together romantically.

    • hassibah says:

      I just can't see Adama/Roslin together. At least not for the sole reason of they're both middle aged people. They're two people forced to work together and competing to get their way and if they got in a romantic relationship that would be too much of a sitcom for me(lol, watch this happen now that I've said this.)
      Lee and her I actually could see, at least wrt how they interact, though with the age difference it wouldn't surprise me at all if the show wouldn't touch it. I don't really do shipping, but I could see it.

  12. ABBryant says:

    Off topic post

    Mark have you seen 'My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic' yet? I just got introduced to it last night and it is AWESOME!

    I looked at your next to watch list and it wasn't confirmed, but please say yes! This show is the shti!

    • enigmaticagentscully says:

      What a coincidence, I just started watching it last night while waiting for Pottermore!
      My favourite pony is Applejack, but I find myself identifying with Pinky-Pie.

      Also, I made this GIF…

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      • xpanasonicyouthx says:

        I haven't, but EVERY one of my friends has. WTF.

        • enigmaticagentscully says:

          I was sceptical too, but it really is surprisingly entertaining.

          • who_cares86 says:

            I don't get it. What is it. The so bad it's good territory or worst guilty pleasure ever?

            • innocentsmith says:

              More the "actually good" territory. I mean, obviously they're pastel talking ponies with magic powers, so if that's just not something you can roll with, you're not going to like it. But if you're someone who likes cartoons and isn't put off by the girly-girlness, then the dialogue is good and all the characters have their own personalities and the plots are well-structured and the musical numbers are lots of fun, and there are lots of little in-jokes, which are always catnip for geeks.

              It's a lot like Powerpuff Girls (unsurprisingly, because Lauren Faust is the creator) and IMO a bit like the old school Muppet Show.

            • enigmaticagentscully says:

              It's fun and cute and has a kind of innocent charm to it. The characters are likeable, the animation style is perfect for the show, and it occasionally has genuinely funny and heartwarming moments.
              I think the appeal is that since it is socially acceptable to watch, it's kind of a refreshing break to be able to guiltlessly enjoy a show that doesn't have ~dark and complex themes~ but is just about ponies and friendship. And hey, it has some good advice about friendship too!

              In the end, no one really understands WHY it's so beloved. You just…you watch it, and you…can't help but love it.

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              • tanbarkie says:

                Mark Watches My Little Pony would be the best use of the internet ever. The episodes are only 20 minutes, too – easy peasy!

  13. Kaci says:

    Can I just like…marry Roslin already? Or at least just sit around in a corner of her ship and watch her be awesome up close? Can we work on making that happen?

    I love the points you made about Boomer fighting her programming. It raised so many questions for me. Does Six really love Baltar, like you said? If she does, can she use that to fight against HER own programming? Would she want to, anyway? (She seems more the type to want HIM to come to HER side, rather than the other way around.) Is she just a hallucination or was she telling the truth, about putting a chip in his head? SO MANY QUESTIONS.

  14. breesquared says:

    Having debated getting Netflix for many months now and being a fan of more dubious methods of television watching, last Thursday evening I signed up for Netflix just to follow BSG because of the praise I saw it getting here.

    jsfhkjehsfdjah;;; I'm not even done with season two but MARK YOU'RE SO UNPREPARED.

  15. enigmaticagentscully says:

    Can I just say how much I love the scene where Adama lends Roslin a book? It kind of cute that they both read cheesy mysteries. And it's nice to see them getting along, or at least being on friendly terms, even if they have their professional disagreements.

    But why the hell do even the books have the corners cut off?? What possible purpose could that serve?? Can you imagine what the writing format inside must look like?

    • LucyGoosey says:

      It was supposedly a joke from one of the producers about all the corners they had to cut when making the show. But still, what an awful job that must have been! Taking all the papers and frames and stuff and cutting the corners off.

    • cait0716 says:

      I love Adama's huge book collection. And I agree with his sentiment "never lend a book". You almost never get it back (at least in my experience)

      • NB2000 says:

        I'm of the "don't lend" belief as well. I stopped after learning the hard way why you don't lend people you rarely see your first edition Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix which I eventually had to replace (I'm still pissed off about that tbh). The only exception to this rule is my mother because the book isn't actually leaving the house.

        • cait0716 says:

          I lost my Goblet of Fire by loaning it out. I still have the book jacket, because I refuse to throw it away even though I'll never get the book back at this point. I was able to replace it with a British edition, but it still makes me sad.

          • NB2000 says:

            I held onto my OotP jacket until it looked like we were going to move house, actually it could still be floating around in a box somewhere. I had to buy a paperback as a replacement so now my collection is all uneven. I could deal with it when the first three were paperback and everything else was hardback but now it's all out of order.

      • enigmaticagentscully says:

        My Mum is a librarian, so I never really got the whole 'don't lend books' thing. 😛

        Don't bend books, sure. Don't write in books. Don't leave them smushed with the spine open on the floor. And GOD FORBID you should dog-ear a page!

        Mind you, I did lend my last Harry Potter book to my Mum and she totally spilt tea all over it and had to dry it off with a hair-dryer. So it just goes to show…something. I had a point when I started this post, I swear!

        • cait0716 says:

          It's more that experience tells me I won't get the book back. I can't even tell you how many times I've lost a book because the person I lent it to never bothered to return it. It's easier to view the book as a gift so you're expectations get lowered.

        • Tess says:

          Don't write in books? Whaa? Don't write in library books, sure. But your own books . . . of course you should write in them! First there's the all-essential fly-leaf where you should put your name and the date (or an appropriate message if the book was a gift), so when I buy the book from you used I can muse over the fact that "Joan Henson" owned it first in 1963, and wonder why Joan decided to give it away and whether she died or just ran out of shelf space. Then, there are the notes in the margins for the ideas you got while reading the book, which can be awesome and insightful, and will make your library exciting for a college to own someday if you get famous. And finally, there are those tantilizingly empty pages at the back of the book, which you can use to start your own novel from the ideas in your margin scribblings. Don't write in books pshaw!

      • rabbitape says:

        I agree with the sentiment, but I also can't help thinking… There are no bookstores anymore. You have to lend that book, Adama! You can't buy another copy to replace it!

        • enigmaticagentscully says:

          Oh my god, I didn't even think of that! All those BOOKS that must have been destroyed forever! What remains of their literature is basically whatever people took with them on a flight…
          ARGH is it really awful that this seems worse to me than all the people that died? Whatever, people can breed and replace themselves.

          • Sean Murphy says:

            Even more horrifying, imagine the ratio of Twilight esque books to good literature left in the fleet!
            (Hopefully Helo. liberates all the good culture from Caprica and returns it to the fleet!)

    • TreesaX says:

      But why the hell do even the books have the corners cut off??

      From what I remember, this was an inside joke amongst the crew due to the initial budget that they had, TPTB told them they needed to cut corners.

    • NB2000 says:

      It's not just the books, all the paperwork people hand to each other are missing corners too. Even Laura's Olympic Carrier note is cut down.

    • @BklynBruzer says:

      Ronald D. Moore has said that Colonials just like clipped corners in the way that we prefer widescreen TV to 4:3.

  16. diane says:

    Gosh, Mark, you sure do have a lot of questions here…..

    Seriously, one of the things I love about BSG is the writers' ability to leave things so open-ended and unanswered. Without irritating the crap out of me every time they do it (LOST, anyone?)

    But I can't answer any of those questions without a long trip to Spoiler City, so I'll mostly sit over here in the corner and watch.

  17. TreesaX says:

    God, it is so hard to talk about these characters without spoiling, haha. They will go through so much and I love them all because of it. I really thought I'd be an active participant since I love this show so much, but I literally have nothing to say that wouldn't get me kicked out of here. So I'll just sit here and read and rage silently that I can't tell you anything. =)

    • cait0716 says:

      This is always the problem with Mark starting a new project. It seems to take a week or two before you can really get to the meaty conversations. They will happen, though!

  18. Karen says:

    I think my favorite thing about this episode is that it deals with a very practical matter. 50,000 people are stranded on space ships and their home planets have been destroyed. They're going to run out of basic necessities at some point, and I LOVE that this episode deals with the problems that come with having such limited supplies. These guys aren't just fighting the Cylons; they're fighting their circumstances in order to survive and I love that this show doesn't forget about that.

  19. doesntsparkle says:

    I was wondering how the survivors would handle necessities like food and water for the journey. The BSG crew could conserve water/laundry if they only wore one undershirt at a time. Sorry to complain about something so silly, but the backwards brown tank distracts me.

    I'm also really confused about what is going on with Baltar and Six. At first, I thought he was just hallucinating, but now I have no idea. I'm really fascinated by Baltar, he's somehow slimy and charismatic at the same time.

    I started to ship Adama/Roslin a little bit. They can be adorable and talk about books. Of course, it's probably a bad idea for a President to get involved with a commanding officer.

  20. Noybusiness says:

    At this point in the original run, most fans were calling the one on Galactica "Boomer" and the one on Caprica "Sharon".

  21. enigmaticagentscully says:

    Speaking of words that you hate, I've always hated 'ad-lib'.
    I don't really know why, but it kind of makes me uncomfortable?

    • evocativecomma says:

      er… that's bizarre. I'd be interested to know what you come up with if you decide to think about why it makes you uncomfortable. I'm assuming, since you italicized it, you know what language it is and what it means.

      • enigmaticagentscully says:

        Oh yeah, I know what it means, and it's obviously not an inherently uncomfortable phrase or anything…I can only assume that sometime in the past I've associated it with some really uncomfortable memory and forgotten why it has those connotations for me.

        Or maybe I'm just really weird?

  22. hassibah says:

    When you just (posibly) killed off 1300 of your own people people I can't really imagine anyone hesitating to drop Boomer out of the airlock as soon as they suspect something, I'd be pretty scared too. But yeah, I can't see how this will end well.

    Sooo wait, they only had water to last a few days with 40% of the water they originally had before the tanks were blown up? So even if that hadn't happened the water would not have lasted that long. Is that right? I feel like I'm the least observant person ever, I need to start watching these more than once.
    It's so weird watching these and not being ahead, for once! I don't really know what to make elaborate bullshit theories about.
    The end was so frustrating watching her not being able to actually read the screen.

    Baltar's doucheyness was waaay more entertaining in this episode-sorry I'm just not much of a theology person-and the way he blew off Gaeta, ugh it was so shitty, but funny. Besides Helo all my favourite characters so far are over 40, I like all that political grandstanding and bs "real" grown ups do when it comes to tv show drama.

    • psycicflower says:

      I got the impression that the water is constantly being recycled so they weren't going to have a problem on that front until they lost so much of it in the explosion. I think Adama said something along the lines of how Galactica's recycling is nearly 100% effective.

    • slybrarian says:

      Sooo wait, they only had water to last a few days with 40% of the water they originally had before the tanks were blown up? So in any case the water would have lasted that long. Is that right? I feel like I'm the least observant person ever, I need to start watching these more than once.

      Not exactly. Galactica is capable of recycling water for itself and the fleet indefinitely. However, at any given moment only so much of it is useable. Not only did they loose 60% of the water supply, but it was all clean water that was going to be used fairly soon. So basically it might be something like this:

      The Fleet needs 80 units of water per week. Normally Galactica (and other ships, but lets ignore them) has 100 units of water ready to go at any given time, and continuously recycles enough water that this stays steady week from week. Suddenly, however, Galactica only has 40 units of water ready for this week, and will only have, say, 50 units a week in the future even after extra waste has been recycled. This means that even if you conserve as much as you can, about half of the fleet is looking at dehydration in short order.

      • hassibah says:

        cool, thanks, this is way more detail than I could ever hope for. Harry Potter has forever warped my brain so now it's always going to be important that I know little things like this.

  23. NopeJustMe says:

    I less than three Gaeta so much. So much helpfulness and awesomeness in such a quiet person.

    So here's the problem. Imagine that you have a best friend, or even a lover, who you've known all your life. And then this genocide thing happens, and they turn out to be a cylon. But they keep saying that they didn't know what they were doing, that it wasn't their fault. What would you do? Punt them out the airlock? Try to protect them? Run?

  24. who_cares86 says:

    Yeah there is a shipping fandom which the writers seem to exploit at every corner which brings me to petpeeve number 2. There are times when the show is far too concerned with the who's having sex with who this week routine. What is this a serious science-fiction drama or a teen drama?

    • NopeJustMe says:

      First: Coby!!!

      Secondly, I can appreciate the teen drama aspect sometimes. It does give a break from the more intense drama, and I don't think Battlestar Galactica is the type to let romance get in the way of plot. Actually the romance often seems to be part of the plot- if the dilemma was just 'Boomer has two boyfriends OMG!' then it would be awful- but instead it's 'Boomer is a Cylon. One of the guys is covering up for her, the other is being tricked for reasons unknown'. It's a lot more interesting and relevant.

      • who_cares86 says:

        Well I did say at certain points. It's really not an issue yet but there's are times when they go a little too far with it but it's far too soon to get into the specifics.

    • evocativecomma says:

      What is this a serious science-fiction drama or a teen drama?

      1) How come you think a drama about people getting romantically/sexually involved with other people is, by default, meant for teens?

      2) Most stories about human beings include stories about sex and love. Science fiction is more about human society, and what it means to be human, than it is about anything else.

      • who_cares86 says:

        I'm not against romance or sex when there's a point to it. Unfortunately this show sometimes lowers itself to becoming a who's having sex with who this week routine. I expect that kind of stuff on a teen drama like Skins or a soap opera not on a serious science fiction drama.

    • Tess says:

      Wait, we have to choose?

    • StatSig says:

      Romance and sex are pretty common parts of life. Trap a bunch of people all together, that sort of stuff is going to erupt. It'd be more awkward if the show ignored it.

  25. My Thoughts on This Episode While Mainlining the Entire First Season in One Day

    Oh no, Boomer! Why you gotta be blowing up shit like that? I'm wondering how her sleeper agent programming operates. I mean, does it take over at random moments? "Let's make out with Tyrol. Mmm, Tyrol. *click* MUST PLANT BOMBS. BLOW UP SHIP. MMM TYROL." Plus, there's that weird moment where she can't see the water on the screen, or she can see it but can't report it, or something. Then there's the other Boomer, and I thought, "Aah, that's kind of cool. Helo'll think she came back for him." Except I could not bother to care about Helo since I hardly knew him, and I couldn't see the point of the storyline at all. What could possibly happen? He was going to find a ship? How the fuck was he supposed to find the Galactica? And why were the Cylons bothering to keep him alive? What purpose could he possibly serve? It just seemed like such a lost cause, and there were no hints of a plausible, interesting endpoint, that I practically groaned every time CYLON-OCCUPIED CAPRICA came up. Also, Apollo, I know everyone on this show likes guilt, but the Olympic Carrier was going to launch a fucking nuke at your ship. You had no choice. You did the right thing. You yourself didn't even see any people on the ship.

    My Thoughts Now

    CYLON-OCCUPIED CAPRICA is actually a pretty cool phrase.

    • cait0716 says:

      Behind the scenes info on Helo, may be considered spoilery through the first season by some, so rot13ed. No specifics.

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      • lizziecharlton says:

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    • hassibah says:

      I'm not gonna lie, I like Helo lots but I was thinking that too.

  26. who_cares86 says:

    Random observation I love how the Cylon sleeper agent has the callsign Boomer. She can "explode" at any minute.

  27. Pseudonymph says:

    The scene in which Boomer is unable to report that there's water is so tense and I think I've figured out why it is particularly tense for me (and probably for a lot of people). I've had several experiences with sleep paralysis in which I'm having a scary dream and I want to scream or wake up but I can't make my body do anything. I can't open my eyes or move my limbs at all. This is pretty common and sleep paralysis actually occurs every night but we're usually unconscious when it happens.

    But yeah, I think that's similar to what Boomer might be going through in that scene. She sees that there is water but it's like she can't control her own mouth in order to say the words. The close quarters of the ship make it even worse and Grace Park acts it so well.

    • Appachu says:

      O_O I kept wondering what was making me so tense during that scene and I couldn't put my finger on it…..That's it. That's exactly it.

      It's part of why "Midnight" creeped me out so much, too.

  28. Stuart907 says:

    Just watched the episode, and this show just keeps impressing me. The thing that bothers me the most about Boomer, is one day she's obviously going to find out that she is actually a Clyon and her entire life, all her memories are all lies, which is just going to be a awful experiance ….I'm very intrested in how the show is going to deal with that when the time comes.

    Also – Is it me or does Baltar look like he could very well be a descendant of Desmund Hume?…the two look remarkably alike

  29. pica_scribit says:

    This is so fascinating. How much of this is part of the Cylon master plan, and how much of it is Boomer fighting her programming? I want to believe that she'll break away and that the humans will have a Cylon come over to their side, but it could just as easily be part of a complex Cylon plot.

    Also, is there such a thing as a fandom that's *not* 'ship-heavy? ;p

  30. innocentsmith says:

    Adama/Roslin was a major ship in the fandom, yes, to the point of being pretty much accepted as a given in fanon. Lee/Roslin less so, but it had its fans. The big ship wars, as far as I'm aware, tended to be between the Kara/Lee people and the Kara/Anyone Else people. (I started watching once the series was almost over, so I was never really involved with all that, but I have heard stories.)

  31. Lauren says:

    Oh boy. Looks like I'll have to find the episodes online because this is looking pretty damn awesome and I'd like to watch along with you.
    Also- I did love World War Z! I mean, I already knew I was going to, but the thought and amazing writing that went into it just blew away my expectations.
    And on a more serious note… I think Mark just saved my life. Again. I figured out I was bi at camp, and if I hadn't discovered Mark and this community… Well, I doubt I'd still be alive to write this. Even with the knowledge of what bisexuality was and that it was perfectly fine, I was still pretty shocked and I'm still trying to get used to it. So thanks. At some point I'm really going to have to pay you guys back for all this.

    • evocativecomma says:

      So thanks. At some point I'm really going to have to pay you guys back for all this.

      I'm so glad that you had this community to learn from first. And you can "pay back" by being open and accepting and everything you love about this comm, so that someone who is in your position one day might know that it's safe to come to *you* with their concerns about their own sexual identity.

    • diane says:

      Don't worry about paying back. Just pay forward when you get a chance.

  32. karate0kat says:

    Oh god, the ship wars for this show…do you remember the Lost ship wars? Kinda like that, but in space. But I don't think they happened this early in the show, so…

    I think what really gets to me about Boomer in this episode is that, in some ways, her story parallels Baltar. These two people have knowledge that, if shared, could be a huge boon in the defense of humanity. But sharing that info puts them personally at risk. And they each have a single confidant – true, Baltar's is in his head, but it still counts. I feel like Boomer was a bit more proactive in how she dealt with it. She didn't, like, go all scooby doo on it or anything, but she seemed interested in keeping anything from blowing up if she could figure out where the detonators were. Plus she's probably fighting unknown Cylon programming without even knowing it. Baltar doesn't really care if he digs himself even deeper in, as long as it keeps his neck out of the noose in the short term. He has no motivation, even in small amounts, beyond self preservation. Well, maybe getting laid. But self preservation and sex, that's it.

    My love for Laura Roslin grows with each episode. There's a lot of bullshit in politics, and that doesn't change just because the world ends. But there are really only two things you need to know to really understand what kind of president Laura is. She keeps her White Board of Humanity to remind herself what they're still fighting for, and she keeps the paper with Olympic Carrier written on it so she remembers what has been sacrificed for what they're still fighting for. And at the end of the day, both those things are all about the people. That's what's important to her.

    And finally, Caprica!Sharon, if you hurt my Helo, I'll
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    • Karen says:

      Oh god, the ship wars for this show…do you remember the Lost ship wars? Kinda like that, but in space.


      I am quite glad that I didn't watch the show when it was airing if that is the case. The Lost ship wars were the WORST.

      • karate0kat says:

        It's possible I was just in a really bad corner of the internet…I came to the show really late, so things had had time to really fester by then.

        But yeah. I think Lost still wins out, just a little, though.

    • cait0716 says:

      But self preservation and sex, that's it.

      If you take the biological point of view, then Baltar's the perfect human. Survival of self and survival of the species are the only two goals that drive him. Well, maybe not consciously on that last point, but I do kind of wonder how many bastards he had before the world ended.

  33. notemily says:

    Re-watching thoughts:


    I like that Lee is having traumatic Olympic Carrier flashbacks. He doesn't need his military commander dad right now–he needs a hug! Or at least reassurance that what he's feeling is normal. Thank the lords of Kobol for President Roslin.

    The Netflix subtitles list Six as "NO. 6" which is funny to me for some reason. Like she's a Chanel perfume.

    Octagonal booooooks

    "It's a gift. Never lend books." ILU Adama. I always remember that quote, which is why I have a shelf of books I will never lend in case I don't get them back. Which is probably not what Adama intended. 😛

    Poor, poor Gaeta. Gaius is his hero and he has no idea how awful he is. I just want to give him a hug.

    Starbuck's hair looks so great.

    "The enemies of the state tend to become the people." Another Adama quote I always remember.

    Gaius smokes cloves? Of course he does.

    BOOMERRRR. STAY GOOD BOOMER. How awful must it be to have your own mind/body rebel against you like that.

    • @sab39 says:

      "The Netflix subtitles list Six as "NO. 6" which is funny to me for some reason."

      Someone needs to make a Cylons / Short Circuit crossover image…

  34. ChronicReader91 says:

    I was really pleasantly surprised that the show is addressing Sharon’s conflict between her human and cylon nature this early. I was hoping for something like this since the end of the miniseries. She is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters of the ensemble, and definitely the most fascinating.

    During the water mission scene, when she was struggling to say that she’d found something, I was yelling, “Say it! Come on, say it!” Not having the ability to control your own speech/actions is seriously terrifying to me. It does make me wonder how it was even possible for her to say it, though. Wouldn’t the cylons program their sleeper agents to not be able to exercise free will, despite any attempt to resist?

  35. Geolojazz says:

    …I got married a month and a half ago, and all of our table names were after starships from Star Trek and BSG.

    We called the table full of people we doubted would show up the Olympic Carrier.

    …is that wrong? XD

  36. @core013 says:

    I ship Lee/Me. Jamie Bamber is so pretty.

  37. StatSig says:

    At this point in the show I would've been perfectly pleased with Roslin/Lee, but I was holding out hope for Roslin/Billy. I have a thing for older women/younger men romances DON'T JUDGE ME

  38. akacj18 says:

    dear mark,
    you are a truly intuitive and intelligent viewer. that being said, you are SOOOO not prepared for the pacing and the breadth and the epicness of BSG.

    i cant say anything more without spoiling. prepare for your mind to be blown.

  39. Kniffel says:

    excelenta lgamactes de gramo y ramerz con flento elistea. morria a edurrerio y ferva stido con codondo nciagifod!

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