In the tenth episode of the third season of Fringe, Walter makes contact with the keyboard player of one of his favorite bands from long ago. As he learns that he is connected to this man in strange ways, one of the Observers begins to intervene in their lives. Intrigued? Then it’s time for Mark to watch Fringe.
This show did not wait at all to make sure that shit got real.
In a way, I suppose “The Firefly” is the companion to the “Jacksonville” / “Peter” double whammy from season two. We learn more about the deal that Walter made with The Observer all those years ago when he traveled to a parallel universe and took his own son across. This time around, however, we also are shown more of how that decision fundamentally altered the entire world.
This show certainly deals with extremes and it’s definitely absurd to think that the one thing Walter did would have such repercussions. But “The Firefly” aims to sell us the ida that even the tiniest, most subtle of human actions can have consequences unforeseen.
I had no idea that Christopher Lloyd was going to guest star in this episode (and it was about time travel!!!!), so that was a pleasant surprise. He played Roscoe Joyce, the keyboard player for one of Walter’s favorite bands, Violet Sedan Chair. And this opens with him being visited by his son….who had been dead for twenty-five years.
Of course, we knew it wasn’t a ghost story just from the cold open. The Observer (September, specifically) was behind this. So why on earth did the Observer bring a son into the future, twenty-five years specifically, so he could mysteriously whisper to his ailing father?
The show has abandoned the notion of being anything but an entirely serialized show at this point, but it’s still neat to see the aesthetic resemblance to “monster-of-the-week” style shows from the past. We know it’s all-mythology now, but this is an episode that gives us no answer as to why it relates to the overarching story behind Fringe until the final fifteen minutes. The Observer is the only thing that ties us to the story at large.
Why does he intervene? We know from “August” that the Observers are NEVER supposed to intervene unless they need to correct the timeline. I assumed early on that the Observer was working towards changing something, but I wasn’t sure what that was. He visits Joyce, bringing his “dead” son along. He intervenes during a bank robbery and saves the life of a young woman having an asthma attack, and he does it in a manner that doesn’t even attempt to hide the fact that he is out in the open.
Meanwhile, Walter begins to bond with Joyce back in his lab. Hoping that music will trigger the memory of what Joyce’s son said to him, Walter uses a form of musical hypnotherapy to help Joyce out. It’s fascinating watching him bond with someone else, as we’ve seen over the last two and a half seasons that Walter is an unbearably lonely man. Here, he gets a chance to meet a hero of his and help him in an intimate, loving way.
And then Olivia’s cell phone goes off. Man, that seems to never happen in TV shows. They go off all the time. I mean…ok, it was partially by the Observer’s design (we’ll get to that), but it was a small moment of realism in an otherwise fantastical story.
So, back to Walter. After Olivia and Peter leave, Roscoe remembers that his son told him that he would meet Walter Bishop and that he was supposed to help him. As the two discuss the impossibility of this, they bond over their love of strawberry milkshakes and a detail this small makes my brain rupture. Writers Joel Wyman and Jeff Pinkner, who helmed “The Firefly,” slowly reveal the connection between these two men who had never met, but they save their big revelation for the next scene: the Observer arrives and wants to speak with Walter.
In possibly one of the most horrifying and depressing scenes in the entire series, Walter begs the Observer not to take his son. But that’s not what he is there for. He can see the future, but he sees many possible futures, unsure which could be the one that actually unfolds. He cannot see unforeseen consequences.
“There are things that I know. But there are things that I do not. Various possible futures are happening simultaneously. I can tell you all of them, but I cannot tell you which one of them will come to pass. Because every action causes ripples, consequences both obvious and unforeseen. For instance, after I pulled you and Peter from the icy lake, later that summer, Peter caught a firefly. I could not have known he would do that or that because he did a young girl three miles away would not. And so later that night, she would continue looking, trying to find another one. I could not have known that when she did not come home, her father would go out looking for her, driving in the rain, so that when the traffic light turned red, his truck skidded through the intersection at Harvard Yard, killing a pedestrian. You and I have interfered with the natural course of events. We have upset the balance in ways I could not have predicted, which is why now I need your help.”
This show is endless fucking tragedy for Walter. Not only did he kidnap Walternate’s son, but he indirectly caused the death of someone else. In order to correct this, the Observer says that when the time is right, he is to “give him the keys and save the girl.” I assumed that this meant Walter was to give the keys to the doomsday machine and save Olivia, that they were asking for Walter to lose his son all over again.
It sets in motion a course of events planned ever-so-delicately by the writers so that the end result would be perfect. Walter returns to the lab and Roscoe remembers a dream that his son had told him about: that a a bald man in a dark suit took him to see an older version of his father in a nursing him. Why does Roscoe remember this? Because it was the night his band had a show in Harvard Yard and his son was killed in a crosswalk by a truck that had run a red light.
I still can’t believe it. It’s so depressing and awful. Part of me is like DID WE NEED TO MAKE WALTER ANYMORE TRAGIC, but the endgame of “The Firefly” proves that YES, YES WE ABSOLUTELY MUST.
I don’t even know if I can do the following scene justice, because so many small details come together at this point, but it was RIVETING to watch my thoughts about the Observer’s request be proved IMMEDIATELY WRONG. What happens in this episode is a twenty-five year long con for our characters. (The Observers don’t experience time like we do, so they adjusted once they realized what they needed to do.) September specifically intervenes in events so that Walter realizes he must save “the girl” and sacrifice his son. When this moment presents himself, filled with despair, Walter decides to obey the Observer, giving his son the keys and saving the girl, who’s the victim of the shop break-in from earlier.
Like the characters on screen, I was confused as to WHY all this happened after the Observer merely stands just there, staring at Peter. And then it says it.
September: It must be very difficult.
Peter: What?
September: Being a father.
I can’t. I just can’t. Guys, who is the only person Peter has had sex with? SHOOT ME IN THE FACE, THE GODDAMN TRAGEDY. And after shooting Peter with the pulse gun, the Observer leaves. That’s it.
WHAT. I DON’T GET IT. THAT’S IT?
Oh, I was so, so, so unprepared. Again, this is a long con, like “The Plateau,” and the pieces are still falling into place. Those pieces lead Peter to drinking the serum his father was making to try and gain back the memories removed from his brain. It sends him into a seizure and Olivia thankfully saves his life. So Walter believes that the Observers did all of this to save HIS life, for he surely would have died had he drank the serum.
NOPE. For the Observers are standing outside and we learn the real reason this all happened: They wanted to see if Walter was willing to sacrifice his son. He was.
September: And now we know, when the time comes, he will be willing to do it again.
I am going to cry myself to sleep tonight. Again.
THOUGHTS
- Nowhere near enough Astrid in this episode, though I laughed when Royce ALSO messed up her name.
- There’s a continuation of the awfully depressing relationship between Olivia and Peter here, though I felt at the end that Olivia was willing to open up about the possibility that maybe she can be more than just friends with him. Of course, the whole “father” story line will surely fuck that up.
- I really want a strawberry milkshake right now.
- If you saw the mini-preview for next week, then FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I think the fatherhood comment to Peter was actually a reference to Walter. On the other hand, this is Fringe.
Also, I swear the writers on this show are having some kind of competition to see who can break your heart the most times in one episode.
Why would he say that to Peter though? I dunno, I think it was meant for Peter.
I've been back and forth on it ever since the Observer said it. I had the sense that he wasn't really speaking to Peter as much as… thinking out loud, maybe?
Of course, I really want him to be talking about Peter-in-the-future, which would mean that PETER WON'T DIE, but his comment at the end sort of killed that hope for me.
It could be because Walter had to make the choice to give up Peter and “save the girl,” ie sacrifice his son for what was supposed to happen? It’s weird that he would say that to Peter and not Walter but I kind of want that to be the case.
I thought it was in reference to Walter, but said to Peter as an affirmation of how much Walter loves him. Not much has been made in the show recently of any resentment Peter may still feel about Walter's actions twenty-five years ago, and this to me was a little acknowledgment of that.
This is how I interpreted it as well.
I think so, too. After all, he fell right into her vagenda.
HA! Thank you, Walter Bishop, for giving us "vagenda".
Yeah, I think the observer meant it about Walter as well as Peter.
Peter: What's going to happen to me?
September: It must be very difficult.
Peter: What?
September: Being a father.
September was testing to see if Walter could let Peter go when the time comes to do so, as well as have this conversation with Peter, it seems. I don't know, this is just what I think, but I am going to have so many sads for my Olivia if this happens.
I really don't want it to be meant for Peter, but I just remembered a post on eonline.com teasing a pregnancy on a current show. (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b220700_find_out_which_tv_fan_fave_pregnant.html)
I would just like to say that this would be the worst idea ever. I don't want soap operas mixed with Fringe, thank you very much
But what makes you think that? I mean, the writers of this show have consistently introduced incredibly emotional and dramatic story lines for years now and it never once felt "soap opera" like, right? So why would this one?
I am afraid they are trying to capture the younger audience using the Peter-Olivia relationship (which I personally like a lot) and there might be the temptation to add some angst to the story there. Alt-Olivia seems to have developed feelings for Peter, Olivia is still trying to adjust to what happened while she was on the other side and them BAM, Peter is having a baby with alt-Olivia. I could see that storyline going angsty-wrong. But you are right in that the writers so far have been delivering strong stories and I hope if there is a baby on the way they won't make a mess of it.
I really hope that you're right. I deeply do not want an Alt!Olivia pregnancy story. O_o
Yeah, I went "OHHHHH" at that line because I figured it was a reference to Peter and Altlivia, but then when he shot Peter I thought, okay, he means it must be hard for Walter to…lose his son again? But given that this is Fringe, it could well have meant both.
"“The Firefly” scored a preliminary 1.9 adults 18-49 and 4.9 million viewers, lifting Fringe up 12% on its fall average."
Good news, I guess. If this show gets canceled, I will rage so much at FOX.
If Fringe gets cancelled I swear to god I will fly to the US, hunt down the FOX execs and kill every last one of them
I'll probably be right behind you, once I find a pitchfork and/or torch to wave.
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Oh show how I've missed you. Judging by that FUUUU I may need to go track down the preview though.
I'd heard that Christopher Lloyd was going to be on the show at some point but managed to forget until right as I started watching (I did the same thing when he was on Chuck). Loved his scenes with John Noble. They're both so awesome.
I liked that Astrid just went with it when Joyce messed up her name, she's so used to it by now.
"Guys, who is the only person Peter has had sex with? SHOOT ME IN THE FACE, THE GODDAMN TRAGEDY."
I don't care if they cast the cutest baby ever to play their offspring, if it IS referring to him and AltLivia I will be full of RAEG. I hate her so much.
Seriously, I cannot deal with Walter being upset, it breaks my heart.
Peter cannot die again, I can't stand to watch Walter in pain, I just cant.
I'm hoping when the Observer said 'it's difficult being a father' he was referring to Walter and not Peter. If fake Olivia is pregnant, please shoot me in the face. TOO MUCH, CANNOT DEAL!
I'm such a sucker for this show. I literally said "Oh my god!" out loud at the reveal about how Bobby died.
Mark have you ever hear the rock opera "The Broken Bride" by the band Ludo? It's an awesome time travel story involving zombies, pterodactyls and true love. Also the episode "White Tulip" was… well either an homage or unintentionally similar.
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Mostly my thoughts during this episode we're along the lines of OMG, WTF, I LOVE THIS SHOW, UTTER TRAGEDY. my only coherent thought was after the observer helped the woman having an asthma attack, because it's the first time I've ever seen anyone in TV/Movies use an inhaler correctly. Ever other time I've seen people use them they inhale the medicine and immediately exhale. Which your not supposed to do, your supposed to hold you breath so the medication can work better. So the fact that she held her breath made me quite excited. Heh I didn't mean to get all tl:dr there.
Not tl:dr at all — I think that's a great example of one of the things this show does so very right — the details. To do sci fi right, the details are super important, since that's what grounds everything and makes it feel real.
If the show gets using an inhaler right, then I'm ok with some of the "science" they come up with. Ya know?
I love this show so much, I can't believe the delicacy of the writing, blows me away every time! This show also reminded me of the episode "The Plateau" as it also involved somebody able to set up long strings of events similar to what the Observer set in motion in this one.
On a lighter note, do you think Violet Sedan Chair ever toured with Geronimo Jackson?
A + for the combined tour idea.
Oh, so you posted that Doc Brown gif yesterday by coincidence? Suuuuure, Mark. I also loved Walter's glasses even more in light of your comments about the Doctor's 3D glasses. Say, did you have any run-ins with Walter as a child?
This was a fantastic episode to come back on. I'm glad Peter and Olivia had a chance to talk — I feel awful for her and I'm still kinda mad at Peter for being so dense — and even though I hope the Observer was referring to Walter, it'll probably be Peter just to screw things up. I just want to give Walter all the hugs and strawberry milkshakes. Oh! And "Mah Na Mah Na" and "If I Only Had a Brain" were perfect and made me smile until the Observer's said Walter's going to have to let Peter die. It is always something bad with them.
YES there was some great song choices in this episode.
MARK
MARK
THE BAND THAT CHRISTOPHER LLOYD'S CHARACTER WAS IN?
THERE ARE ACTUALFAX COPIES OF ONE OF THEIR VINYLS THAT THE FRINGE PRODUCTION TEAM CREATED AND HID IN RECORD STORES.
http://www.fringebloggers.com/fringe-violet-sedan… http://io9.com/5740420/ (has a general recap of the episode but also has all of the songs thanks to soundcloud) http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/01/fringe-vio…
FUCK EVERYTHING FRINGE IS THE GREATEST FANDOM EVER.
OMG I LOVE IT
Fringe has always done awesome fandom stuff like this, too. I remember during season one they had the observer (our only observer at the time, September) show up randomly in other fox shows and sports games, just hangin' out. Fringe is the best.
In an extra scene for "Over There Part II", Peter and Walternate have a discussion about Violet Sedan Chair. It's Walternate's favorite band and they made at least three albums on that side, because the third is his favorite. Peter wonders a bit at the difference in the band's output. It blows my mind that they were setting this up even then. This show really is amazing.
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Check out the three silhouettes on the wall behind the Observer: a woman with a baby, a man, and a little girl. The woman with the baby would certainly seem to suggest that Fauxlivia IS pregnant, although I really really really don't want that to be true because it will ruin Peter/Olivia FOREVER.
THIS IS CREEPY.
When I first saw those silhouettes I thought they were real people and I kept looking at them during this scene. I didn't see the woman with the baby though. Oh my!
I HAVE DECIDED.
The observers are from Gallifrey.
That is all.
IT'S SO OBVIOUS NOW.
But there are no funny hats!
Clearly the Doctor left because he didn't want to shave his head.
I read somewhere that the writers are now referring to the episode style as "mythalone". They still have some semblance of a procedural mystery/monster, but everything blends with the mythology on a literal/ thematic level. I think it's great.
I love that!
That's awesome! And it's gotta take some skill, too, to strike that balance.
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So does anyone have any input on the book Peter sent to Olivia, "If You Meet a Buddha on the Road, Kill Him!" I'm curious to hear anyone's take on this book if you've read it, as it is Peter's favorite book. Peters says of it "it talks about not depending on other people for answers, that you can only find the answers inside yourself." Anyone have any take on it, I'm considering picking it up to see if I can get any insight into Peter.
I haven't read the book itself, but the phrase is a famous zen koan. (Another famous koan is "What is the sound of one hand clapping?") There are many ways to interpret/answer any koan, and the common interpretations for this one are very appropriate for Fringe — about delusions, enlightenment, walking the right path, etc.
Amazon reviews for the book are pretty interesting. I bet it would be a great read, completely independent of any insights into Fringe or Peter.
Another blog I was reading about this episode posted several quotes from the book. They really do seem thematically relevant to Fringe.
"You are free to do whatever you like. You need only face the consequences."
"We must learn the power of living with our helplessness."
"All important decisions must be made on the basis of insufficient data."
"You can't have anything unless you let go of it. "
Nowhere near enough Astrid in this episode, though I laughed when Royce ALSO messed up her name.
And you just messed up Joyce's name. COINCIDENCE?
Why did Walter ask Peter to ask the asthmatic woman where she was in 1985? Was she supposed to be the girl who didn't catch the firefly?
Yeah, that I couldn't figure out. Maybe?
Yeah that's what I took it as, otherwise why would the observer go to that jewelry store and save her?
Well, he saved her so he could take her inhaler and crash into her at the appropriate time. She was the asthmatic woman who would be at that intersection, and the Observer just traced back to start the Rube Goldberg device. Doesn't necessarily mean she was Important.
That definitely makes sense, I just meant that I did take her to also be the girl who didn't catch a firefly because Peter did, and that's why Walter urgently wanted to speak to her.
I don't think so. I think that was just Walter trying to figure out what the Observer's game was. With the information he'd just been given, Walter thought the firefly girl was the direction he needed to go. I don't want to call it a red herring, but she does play out to only be a single puzzle piece to the Observer, not his ultimate picture.
Oh man this show!!!!!
When Joyce told him how his son died… fucking broke my heart! I just can't stand how SAD everything is!
I really hope Altlivia isn't pregnant because I would be SAD FOREVER. I really, really hope the Observer was talking about Walter.
So. I definitely had no idea that the capping images were glyphs until this watchthrough here. I haven't participated in fandom of Fringe at all, which is the reason I'm sure, but I have seen every episode up until now. Sad that I never noticed anything about them.
Anyway. Very cool to learn that, and to also learn that it took putting the symbols into a program before someone figured it out (although that only seems to be because of actual mistakes in the code). I just wish the words were more apparently a part of the story.
i am obviously not cool. i joined in the Live Chat thing friday night & leaving comments whilst watching the episode is something i CANNOT do well.
i don't remember a damn thing of the episode and now i must watch it again.
Did no one else get the Twin Peaks reference with the glasses?? It had me laughing for almost the entire hypnosis scene.
The glasses that Walter wears (and Astrid subsequently comments on) are from a friend of his "Doctor Jacoby, in Washington State." Doctor Jacoby is a character on the late-80's early-90's (don't remember which) supernatural drama Twin Peaks, which is kind of the mother of it all. Jacoby is a psychiatrist with really weird methods (much like Walter's) and bi-colored glasses.
Oh, Fringe, I love you SO MUCH.
I'm not going to read any of these reviews and comments until I have caught up, but I felt I needed to come on here and squee having just finished season 1 of Fringe!
In the true spirit of this site:
THOUGHTS
I agree with what I had read/heard about the show, it takes a while to find it's feet but suddenly it becomes plain brilliant.
Walter Bishop is the best, and has the best sad face EVER
Even though I guessed most of the finale twists (probably due to knowing that parallel worlds were involved) I thought it was brilliant, and as soon as a certain character started speaking from the shadows in the final scene and I realised who the actor was, and the jokey reference in the previous episode, I was made. I'm not a Trekkie, but it still made me geek out more than anything since the Chuck season 2 final scene. Cannot wait for season 2, major excite.
MY NAIVE PREDICTIONS FOR SEASON 2 – judge and laugh
Much more world-jumping
Peter was taken by Walter from alternate-land (I have christened it Pete's World) because he died in this one
Peter will find out he's from Pete's World, and be all angst because he was taken from his mother, who survives in Pete's World
Walter is more evil/unethical than he remembers
Olivia's 'abilities' will become more apparent/important
There will be alternate Olivia (Olive??) who will be totally primed and bad-ass. She will wear a wig because Abrams loves his ALIAS
William Bell won't be in it nearly as much as I hope he will
I'm wondering if they'll move away from random diseases killing people, but maybe we'll see more 'abilities', invisibility?
All in all, so happy to have given this show a chance and can't wait to catch up with the liveblogging, I'd say I'll be there in a week or two, see you all there!
I've caught up! And there's Christopher Lloyd!
I have to say I am completely hooked on this show, and would never have given it a chance were it not for this blog, so thank you!
Looks like my predicitons weren't miles away back then, but I love where the show's gone, and how it is totally all mythology now (with a little bit of monster-of-the-week mixed in – HOW CREEPY WAS 'MARIONETTE' by the way???) and the Fake Olivia storyline was painful, I wanted our Olivia back so much!
Walter Bishop is still the greatest character ever, if he speaks I will either laugh or cry FACT
I'll comment as I watch each episode to stay spoiler-free until I catch up, but I love this show.
One question, when have we been told THE Observer is called September? Have I missed something?
I hope that this "Bolivia" pregnancy is not true…i really believe that the observer was talking about walter, because he kind of "care" for peter and walter, and if he is feeling bad in that situation, having to make arrangements to kill peter, walter would feel much worse, having to let peter go…after all, he is the father…
I don't know if any of this is making sense for you guys…but in my head it explains a lot…
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